Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Monoriu]

Teresa May has offered to resign if her deal passes.  To a certain extent, is she trying to convince the House of Commons to fire her, and seemingly not terribly successful at that? 

[Razgovory]

Teresa May has offered to resign if her deal passes.  To a certain extent, is she trying to convince the House of Commons to fire her, and seemingly not terribly successful at that? 

That's a bit like a man on death row volunteering to give up his bunk after his sentence is executed.  From here it looks like every party wants her to fail, take the blame for the failure and then take her place to rebuild Britain.

[Tamas]

Jesus Christ, all the Brexiter Tories are flocking to May's deal now, probably because they can't wait to start backstabbing for her position.

But, once again, they have postponed it so long that even if it gets accepted today it will be a fucked up mess.

For once, Labour makes sense on this: agreeing to just the Withdrawal Agreement portion would mean giving a blank cheque to the Tory's new internally-selected leader to do whatever the F he wishes with Brexit.

[Tamas]

Dominic Raab, who, you might remember, was Brexit secretary for about 3 minutes then resigned due to the deal he supposedly led the negotiations on.

He is now coming around to voting yes on it tonight. To quote the Guardian:

Raab says there is a balance of risk. He cannot countenance a longer article 50 extension, or the UK taking part in European elections.

He says the government should use the extra time available to get an exchange of letters with the EU giving effect to the Brady amendment.

When MPs says the EU won't accept legally-binding changes to the backstop, he says it is always assumed that the EU will hold firm, but that the UK must compromise. That mindset got us into this problem in the first place, he says.

In other words, he is openly suggesting that the UK should accept the Withdrawal Agreement, to gain the extra month necessary to reneg on it and force the same cake-and-eat approach they have utterly failed to force the past two years.

What a bunch of morons. I am starting to come around to wanting a decision between cancelling A50 or no deal. All of this fucking bullshit from this group of spineless clueless idiots is GUARANTEED to end up in one of those two outcomes, so how about we choose one, take the inevitable shitstorm on our chins, and move forward.

[celedhring]

The Brady amendment is the one that sought to replace the Irish backstop with magic?

[Tamas]

The Brady amendment is the one that sought to replace the Irish backstop with magic?

yes

[Tamas]

The Tory Brexiter David Jones says he will continue to vote against the deal. If the deal had changed, he would have considered changing his mind, he says. But it has not.

He says this was meant to be the day when the bells would be peeling to celebrate Brexit.

Could these bloody bastards lift their heads up from their 19th century history books and realise it is 2019 already?

[Syt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh4xPvRR2oA

At the European Parliament in Straatsburg, the Brexit speech from Conservative MEP Richard Ashworth got a standing ovation from some of his fellow MEPs.

"For over 25 years no British prime minister ever explained to the British people what Europe did, what are the benefits and why it matters," he says.

"They never defended against the untruths that were spoken.

"Because of that the British press ran a 20-year campaign based on populist mistrusts, lies and deceit.

"The consequence of that in Britain is a sad nation divided like never before.

"So let Brexit stand as a cautionary tale to the people of Europe.

"You are the generation who have lived through the longest period of peace and the greatest level of prosperity ever.

"Never take it for granted - value it, fight for it, defend it every day."

[Tamas]

58 short.

[celedhring]

So now another round of parliament again voting "no" to every other alternative? Or is a consensus around *something* going to emerge?

[Tamas]

As May just said:

This House has rejected no deal. It has rejected no Brexit. On Wednesday it rejected all the variations of the deal on the table.

And today it has rejected approving the withdrawal agreement alone and continuing a process on the future.

[Valmy]

So now another round of parliament again voting "no" to every other alternative? Or is a consensus around *something* going to emerge?

It is kind of sad to see similar levels of leadership in the British Parliament that we often see in the US Congress. This is why our President and the Executive Branch have increasingly become the government. But it is different here, the UK Parliament is not just one branch of the government. Their power is supposed to be supreme, they cannot just ask the President or the Monarch to decide. They have to do something. Who is going to grab the reigns of leadership here?

[mongers]

So with her central government policy, she cannot command a majority in the house. 

Time to step down and give something else the chance?

[Tamas]

What also worries me now is that this can spiral into the EU via the European elections. It may get very close in the European Parliament between moderates and the far-right, last thing the EU needs is Farage and his goons tipping the balance toward the Italians and Orban and his ilk.

[Tamas]

This is from Martin Selmayr, the European commission secretary general.

Martin Selmayr
(@MartinSelmayr)
12 April is now the new 29 March