Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[Threviel]

Brexit is now unpalletable.

Att du pallar med allt det här ordvitsandet.

[Zanza]

I predict hundreds of these small scale issues to be identified in the next week's. Britain is not just leaving a free trade area. It leaves like half its economic regulatory framework and institutions behind. A lot of things will just not be regulated at all anymore, which massively increases individual transaction costs.

[mongers]

What we're seeing now, Britain is already in a disorderly no-deal Brexit. 

The idea that it'll be all right just a long as May gets some signatures on a document by 22.59 GMT 29th March is a fantasy, significant damage is already being done day in day out. 

[alfred russel]

It's been almost 3 fucking years - how can you not figure any of this shit out?

The UK government is due to hold emergency talks with industry leaders on Tuesday after discovering that the country doesn't have the right pallets to continue exporting goods to the European Union if it leaves without a deal next month.
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The Department for Environment, Food, and Rural Affairs last week told business leaders that the UK would not have enough EU-approved pallets for exporting to the continent if it leaves without a withdrawal agreement next month.

https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-michael-gove-ministers-to-hold-emergency-meeting-over-no-deal-chaos-2019-2

In its own way, this is as much a defense of brexit as an attack on the british current government. The regulation, in other circumstances, would be ridiculed as an example of EU overregulation.

[The Brain]

Brexit is now unpalletable.

Att du pallar med allt det här ordvitsandet.

[The Larch]

It's been almost 3 fucking years - how can you not figure any of this shit out?

The UK government is due to hold emergency talks with industry leaders on Tuesday after discovering that the country doesn't have the right pallets to continue exporting goods to the European Union if it leaves without a deal next month.
...
The Department for Environment, Food, and Rural Affairs last week told business leaders that the UK would not have enough EU-approved pallets for exporting to the continent if it leaves without a withdrawal agreement next month.

https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-michael-gove-ministers-to-hold-emergency-meeting-over-no-deal-chaos-2019-2

In its own way, this is as much a defense of brexit as an attack on the british current government. The regulation, in other circumstances, would be ridiculed as an example of EU overregulation.

Except it's not an EU regulation, but an international trade one, from the WTO. It is actually waived within the EU.

[ulmont]

Except it's not an EU regulation, but an international trade one, from the WTO. It is actually waived within the EU.

It's an EU regulation which aligns with the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization's international standards for plant quarantine (including insects which might be present in wood).

They really aren't that impressive either:

All wood packaging material and dunnage from non-EU countries must be:

• either heat treated or fumigated in line with ISPM15 procedures;
• officially marked with the ISPM15 stamp consisting of 3 codes (country, producer and measure applied) and the IPPC logo;
• debarked.

These requirements do not apply to:

• wood 6mm thick or less;
• wood packaging material made entirely from processed wood produced using glue, heat and pressure e.g. plywood, oriented strand board and veneer;
• wood packaging material used in trade within the EU.

[The Larch]

Except it's not an EU regulation, but an international trade one, from the WTO. It is actually waived within the EU.

It's an EU regulation which aligns with the UN's Food and Agriculture Organization's international standards for plant quarantine (including insects which might be present in wood).

It is also bundled in WTO regulations, and one of the things that "reverting to WTO rules" implies for the UK:

Chris Hillaby, the managing director of Shaw Pallets, a Huddersfield-based pallet producer, said the issue was "one of those really nasty things that Brexit has thrown up".

"A global initiative commenced over 15 years ago within the forestry and timber packaging market has been focused on stopping an invasion of plant pests that can prove very damaging to our indigenous timber stocks," he said.

"Around five years earlier, it had become apparent in the US that plant pests could be transported in lower-grade softwoods, which were used in some items of timber packaging where the insects, such as the Asian long-horned beetle, could sometimes be found under sections of bark on the timber.

"To prevent such trends the World Trade Organisation (WTO) agreed that all timber packaging should be heat treated at source to a core temperature of 56C and sustained for at least 30 minutes as this had been scientifically proven way to eradicate such threats – the treatment standard being called ISPM15."

The EU is exempt from the WTO rules. But Hillaby said: "Should the UK not secure an acceptable Brexit deal, the country will of course revert to WTO rules for export and import, which will call for timber packaging to be heat treated for all cross-border shipments. While Defra has at the current time indicated that it will not implement rigorous checks on imported goods from the EU, there has been little in the way of a similarly pragmatic response from the EU itself."

[Threviel]

Brexit is now unpalletable.

Att du pallar med allt det här ordvitsandet.

Kom inte på nåt bra på engelska

[celedhring]

Looks like one particular part of Brexit is working, though:



EU8 are the Eastern European countries within the EU.

[The Larch]

Related to that:

'Better weather, better pay': German hospital looks to lure UK's Polish nurses
Advert offering 'security of an EU state' hopes to lure those worried about life post-Brexit

A German hospital is trying to poach Polish nurses working in the UK, advertising jobs in English-Polish newspapers to encourage them to "come back home".

Dr Tobias Pott, from the University Hospital of Düsseldorf, said the move was motivated first and foremost by a lack of nurses in Germany, but that they also felt it sensible to appeal to a community of nurses in the UK who may be considering leaving because of concerns over Brexit.

"Polish people feel very worried about their future in Britain. They are worried about freedom of movement, there are a lot of concerns about whether they'll be able to stay and work in the UK," said Pott.

"I don't think we sparked this – but if they are thinking of leaving, why not come here?"

The Royal College of Nursing said it was concerned about a chronic shortage of nurses in the UK – there are more than 41,000 nursing vacancies in England alone and staff surveys suggest a rise in nurses working overtime since the EU referendum in 2016.

Since the referendum, more than 10,000 nurses and midwives from the European Economic Area have left the UK workforce.

The University Hospital of Düsseldorf has already received a handful of applications off the back of the adverts, and expects to receive many more. Pott said he hoped the good working conditions in Germany, its proximity to Poland and its reputation for nursing will be enough to convince Poles working in the UK to take the leap.

The advert, published in German and Polish, says: "Not only do we have the better pay, the better social benefits and better working hours ... We also have the better weather, the better food and the shorter way to Poland. And the security of an EU state."

Pott said the hospital planned to offer Polish nurses a resettlement programme, which would include travelling to meet them in the UK, helping them find accommodation in Germany and introducing them to the Rhineland carnival.

Artur Kieruzal, who works for Cooltura magazine, where one of the adverts was placed, said it had also received interested emails from the Polish community: "There was quite a big interest for many nationals from the EU who live in the UK. They have said that after Brexit, the environment won't be good for us any more – why not leave and go elsewhere in Europe?"

Kieruzal said he was worried about that prospect, because it would break the Polish community apart, saying: "It will be a knife in our neck."

He said that on Polish Radio London, where he hosts a programme, there was constant discussion about the terms of Brexit: "Of course there's a fear. When we speak with our listeners on the radio there's a lot of concerns about the future and the option to go back after Brexit is open.

"I am secretly hoping Brexit won't happen. This is my home."

[Josquius]

There's already, what, 6 times as many Poles in Germany as the UK?
It's a huge number anyway. 2 or 3 million or so.

[Tamas]

Well, it'd be a bit silly to go to a country which has quite openly declared they do not want you.

[Duque de Bragança]

There's already, what, 6 times as many Poles in Germany as the UK?
It's a huge number anyway. 2 or 3 million or so.

Germany East of the Elbe is crypto-slavic territory anyways. 

[alfred russel]

It's been almost 3 fucking years - how can you not figure any of this shit out?

The UK government is due to hold emergency talks with industry leaders on Tuesday after discovering that the country doesn't have the right pallets to continue exporting goods to the European Union if it leaves without a deal next month.
...
The Department for Environment, Food, and Rural Affairs last week told business leaders that the UK would not have enough EU-approved pallets for exporting to the continent if it leaves without a withdrawal agreement next month.

https://www.businessinsider.com/brexit-michael-gove-ministers-to-hold-emergency-meeting-over-no-deal-chaos-2019-2

In its own way, this is as much a defense of brexit as an attack on the british current government. The regulation, in other circumstances, would be ridiculed as an example of EU overregulation.

Except it's not an EU regulation, but an international trade one, from the WTO. It is actually waived within the EU.

I stand corrected. Still seems punitive to enforce immediately.