Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[dps]

Didn't like 50,000 people give their religion as Jedi in their last census?  Elizabeth could knight one of them, if they're aren't any of them who are already knighted.

[The Minsky Moment]

Temporarily. It worked all out in the end, and she got to strangle the fat bloated pile of corruption.

If only Britain had a trained Jedi knight on their side, they'd be all set.

for emphasis

[dps]

Yeah, I did sort of ignore that adjective.

[Syt]

Temporarily. It worked all out in the end, and she got to strangle the fat bloated pile of corruption.

If only Britain had a trained Jedi knight on their side, they'd be all set.

[Josquius]

Cross out the Jedi knight. Trained is asking a bit much too. Somebody who has even a bit of a clue would be better than what we've got.

Incidentally. Interesting how the government and media are currently constructing a migrant crisis

[Tamas]

Speaking of awkward ads, I returned to Heathrow yesterday and at the border crossing there was a big colourful sign saying

WELCOME TO GREAT
Britain & Northern Ireland

[Zanza]

Temporarily. It worked all out in the end, and she got to strangle the fat bloated pile of corruption.

If only Britain had a trained Jedi knight on their side, they'd be all set.

for emphasis

"Britons had had enough of experts!"

[Tamas]

In case you haven't been followign this, there has been now two consecutive defeats of May in Parliament on amendment votes to the Withdrawal Act (the UK law trying to organise how MPs get through this thing).

With these two amendements, May will now have to come up with a Plan B following the likely defeat of her plan on the 15th (as opposed to 21 days) and there's some abstract tool which in theory lets MPs prevent a no deal exit.

All in all, as we get closer and closer to the deadline (at which the current default is a no deal crash out), the situation becomes less and less clear or predictable.

[Zanza]

There is no abstract tool that allows MPs to prevent a no-deal exit. This is determined by EU not UK law after all. What they did is to stymie government preparing for no deal by amending the finance bill. That just means Britain will be even less prepared for what is now the most likely outcome...

[ulmont]

There is no abstract tool that allows MPs to prevent a no-deal exit. This is determined by EU not UK law after all.

Sure there is - the ECJ ruled that the UK could halt the article 50 process unilaterally.  So all the UK has to do is provide notice to the EC that the UK has revoked the article 50 notification, which could be done presumably by a single bill.

[Tamas]

Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary, outlined Labour's plans for a Brexit deal:

Starmer says he is interested in something that would be similar to the customs union, but not the same. He says he would like to explore this in talks with the EU. If it was a custom union like the one Turkey has with the EU, that would not be acceptable. And he says he would like something akin to single market membership, but not EEA membership. He accepts that these are issues that would have to be negotiated.

Basically, he is interested finding out if the EU is open to enact Boris Johnson's plan from 2016.

We are fucked.

[Maladict]

Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary, outlined Labour's plans for a Brexit deal:

Starmer says he is interested in something that would be similar to the customs union, but not the same. He says he would like to explore this in talks with the EU. If it was a custom union like the one Turkey has with the EU, that would not be acceptable. And he says he would like something akin to single market membership, but not EEA membership. He accepts that these are issues that would have to be negotiated.

  wtf is wrong with these people

[celedhring]

How many times have we gone through  the "no cherry picking" thing already? Jesus Christ. It's like they think this some RPG when if they try enough times they'll eventually roll 00 and succeed.

[Tamas]

How many times have we gone through  the "no cherry picking" thing already? Jesus Christ. It's like they think this some RPG when if they try enough times they'll eventually roll 00 and succeed.

To be fair this particular guy is supposed to be an expert on the EU. So what he is doing is pretending cherry-picking is possible to hasten the fall of the government and the coming Uncle Corbyn to rule.
So, no stupidity in his case, just reckless prioritising of party over nation.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Yeah, there is a lot of posturing along the lines of "if I/we were in charge we will negotiate a much better deal"; it is impossible to say how many voters are foolish enough to believe them - surprisingly many I would guess.