Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[MadImmortalMan]

Hedge funds have been hiring exit pollsters and markets are up.

[mongers]

Will the UK wake up tomorrow morning with the biggest hangover in its history?

"Damn, what Did I get up to yesterday and last night?" 

[Sheilbh]

Sterling's now falling sharply

[mongers]

Sterling's now falling sharply

This is my concern too, I think there's been few factors that have broken in Remains favour over the last few days.

Maybe the rain and flooding in the SE/London will deter less determined Brexit voters?

[Martim Silva]

Odd that everyone is acting like this "vote" will mean anything. 

People, if by some odd accident the "leave" vote wins, it's not legally binding, Cameron will fudge some words out of any agreement with Brussels and a new referendum will be held within 6 months.

And if that one gives "leave", rinse and repeat every 3-6 months until 50%+1 vote results in a "remain" result.

Then the outcome will be declared "The Will Of The People" and set in stone, at least for a full generation.

Bottom line, Britain is not allowed to leave the EU and will not do so. What the British electorate votes for is irrelevant - The EU is not democratic nor has any intentions of following any democratic principles.

That said, let us welcome the next large wave of european immigration into Britain, so that in the next decades the country becomes so full of Europe-conscious people that we can finally put into the dustbin of History that failed national identity that was being English.

[Josquius]

I wish I could be so confident.
But no.

And even the threat of leave will fuck up a lot

[Valmy]

Odd that everyone is acting like this "vote" will mean anything. 

People, if by some odd accident the "leave" vote wins, it's not legally binding, Cameron will fudge some words out of any agreement with Brussels and a new referendum will be held within 6 months.

And if that one gives "leave", rinse and repeat every 3-6 months until 50%+1 vote results in a "remain" result.

Then the outcome will be declared "The Will Of The People" and set in stone, at least for a full generation.

Bottom line, Britain is not allowed to leave the EU and will not do so. What the British electorate votes for is irrelevant - The EU is not democratic nor has any intentions of following any democratic principles.

That said, let us welcome the next large wave of european immigration into Britain, so that in the next decades the country becomes so full of Europe-conscious people that we can finally put into the dustbin of History that failed national identity that was being English.

Too much cynicism really does make one a fool. DG was right.

[Razgovory]

What's he on about?  Not Tyr, MS.

[Martim Silva]

What's he on about?  Not Tyr, MS.

To put it in the simplest way possible, again:

The UK is not allowed to leave the EU and will not do so.

Period.

[Josquius]

Sterling's now falling sharply

I'm not seeing that on xe.
But points leavewards 

[Monoriu]

I think the damage of ignoring the referendum result will be even higher than the damage of leaving the EU.  I mean, the UK is not a little kid.  There is no way an organisation can ignore the referendum and say, no you can't leave.  That's just not possible.  If they vote leave, they'll leave.

[Valmy]

I think the damage of ignoring the referendum result will be even higher than the damage of leaving the EU.  I mean, the UK is not a little kid.  There is no way an organisation can ignore the referendum and say, no you can't leave.  That's just not possible.  If they vote leave, they'll leave.

Yep.

[Josquius]

The best hope if we leave I think is that a lot of other countries follow our lead ASAP and then we form a neo-eu, fixing most of the errors of the previous one.
A UN to the EU's league of nations.
Only. You know. Better than the un

[Valmy]

The best hope if we leave I think is that a lot of other countries follow our lead ASAP and then we form a neo-eu, fixing most of the errors of the previous one.
A UN to the EU's league of nations.

The problem is most reforms to the EU would seem to make it more powerful. If it had a democratic mandate it would be much more powerful than the national governments. I thought Europeans were against the idea of a federation.

I think a trade bloc combined with a military alliance is probably the best. But that would be no more democratic than what you currently have.

[Berkut]

The UK could join with the US. There would be some historic symmetry to that...