Brexit and the waning days of the United Kingdom

[crazy canuck]

I didn't realize it was only a North American saying - and only an English American saying at that.

Yes and it's possibly a class imbibed expression, my guess is, it's comparing the inferior print quality of a bromide photographic image versus one produced using paper coated in silver halide solution. So it's referencing something only the lower classes could have just afford to have.

That's really interesting. Thanks 

[Barrister]

Again, I can imagine an extension of assisted dying being done in a bad way. I'll worry about that once that extension happen and we'll know the details. I am not going to want to condemn thousands of people -potentially myself included- to a tormented nightmare of months-long agonising death just because this VERY limited bill MIGHT at some point in the future, assuming a series of various fuckups by legislators, be the precursor of a badly regulated MAID law.

I can't understand how you guys can have this position.

"Just pass the bill, and we'll work out the details later" tends to not actually work in practice.

I'll give you a different Canadian example.  Also under Trudeau we passed marijuana legalization.  The regulations were to follow.  And I mean they did eventually come - but there's a fucking marijuana shop in every single strip-mall.  I don't think any proponents of legalization ever expected the outcome we wound up with.

The time to get the details right is before the thing happens.

[HVC]

I'll give you a different Canadian example.  Also under Trudeau we passed marijuana legalization.  The regulations were to follow.  And I mean they did eventually come - but there's a fucking marijuana shop in every single strip-mall.

And civilization fell

[Sheilbh]

Also the detail is in the bill - that's kind of the problem a lot of opponents have had. It's wanting.

With some very odd details like the total exclusion of civil liability (including for negligence) and restrictions on coroners. The details of the bill are basically a process flow for something where absolutely nothing goes wrong and it's all fine, the concerns of opponents are that something might go wrong and the bill is silent (at best).

Edit: And in my view, generally almost as bad as "pass the bill and sort out the details later" is passing legislation that is designed for the best case scenario.

[mongers]

Well the parliamentary political process went well, MP representing the wide range of views on this issue and considering the details without it being turned into a national culture wars sling-fest.

I wonder if the incoming US House of Representatives could debate and consider something similar in the US?

[garbon]

Well the parliamentary political process went well, MP representing the wide range of views on this issue and considering the details without it being turned into a national culture wars sling-fest.

I wonder if the incoming US House of Representatives could debate and consider something similar in the US?

I'm not sure why you want to turn discussion to the US in this thread. I would think we have enough threads discussing those Republican assholes.