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Started by Korea, March 10, 2009, 06:24:26 AM

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CountDeMoney

lol, derspiess would just shoot him in the driveway.  #GodSendsYourWhiteFatherATarget

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

CountDeMoney

Oh, I'm quite prejudiced about derspeiss.  He always shows his colors.  As it were.

The Brain

Quote from: sbr on August 08, 2016, 07:43:01 PM
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/when-god-sends-your-white-daughter-a-black-husband

QuoteWhen God Sends Your White Daughter a Black Husband

For years I prayed for a young man I had yet to meet: my daughter's husband. I asked the Lord to make him godly, kind, a great dad, and a good provider. I was proud of a wish list void of unrealistic expectations. After all, I knew not to ask for a college football quarterback who loved puppies, majored in nuclear rocket science, and wanted to take his expertise to the mission field. I was an open-minded mom.

But God called my bluff.

This white, 53-year-old mother hadn't counted on God sending an African American with dreads named Glenn.

Glenn came to Christ in college and served him passionately. He worked while attending classes and volunteered at church in an after-school program for urban kids. He graduated and found a job as an application developer for Blue Cross and Blue Shield. I noticed he opened doors for my daughter, Anna, even at the grocery store.

Godly. Kind. Well on his way to being a great dad and a good provider. I could only smile at God's plan and asked his forgiveness for my presumptions. Still, my impressive wish list for Anna's husband paled in comparison to her own: "He loves Jesus, Mom. That's it. That's my wish list. Jesus lover." Then a grin came across her face. "It's really awesome he's also cute, right?" Anna took a deep breath and with a sparkle in her eyes asked: "So, Mom, what do you think?"

It wasn't long ago that interracial marriage—particularly a black man like Glenn marrying a white girl like Anna—was considered the ultimate taboo in American white society. (In fact, it was illegal in 16 states until 1967, when the Supreme Court ruled in Loving v. Virginia that race-based restrictions violated the Constitution's Equal Protection Clause. Hence the film releasing this fall, Loving.) Though I never shared this prejudice, I never expected the issue to enter my life.

To the parent like me who never envisioned her daughter in an interracial marriage, here are eight things to remember when your white daughter brings a black man home for dinner.

1. Remember your theology.

All ethnicities are made in the image of God, have one ancestor, and can trace their roots to the same parents, Adam and Eve.

As you pray for your daughter to choose well, pray for your eyes to see clearly, too. Glenn moved from being a black man to beloved son when I saw his true identity as an image bearer of God, a brother in Christ, and a fellow heir to God's promises.

2. Remember to rejoice in all things.

If your daughter has chosen a man who's in Christ, and assuming there are no serious objections to their union, loving her well means not only permitting an interracial marriage but also celebrating it. My daughter's question, "What do you think?" needed more than a tolerant shoulder shrug. She needed to know I loved Glenn too. I'm deeply grateful my daughter chose this particular man, and I try to tell him often.

3. Remember no Christian marriage is promised a trial-free life.

One woman in church looked over at Anna and Glenn and gingerly asked, "Are they . . . dating?"

"Engaged!" I grinned and winked at them.

She gave a pained smile, and then sighed and shook her head. "It's just . . . their future children. They have no idea what's ahead of them!"

I nodded. "When Jim and I were married, we had no idea what was ahead of us either. I stopped believing the lie we could control our trials years ago."

John Piper said it well:

Christ does not call us to a prudent life, but to a God-centered, Christ-exalting, justice-advancing, counter-cultural, risk-taking life of love and courage. Will it be harder to be married to another race, and will it be harder for the kids? Maybe. Maybe not. But since when is that the way a Christian thinks? Life is hard. And the more you love, the harder it gets.

4. Remember to be patient with family members.

Calling Uncle Fred a bigot because he doesn't want your daughter in an interracial marriage dehumanizes him and doesn't help your daughter either. Lovingly bear with others' fears, concerns, and objections while firmly supporting your daughter and son-in-law. Don't cut naysayers off if they aren't undermining the marriage. Pray for them.

5. Remember your daughter's ultimate loyalty is not to you or your family, but to the Lord.

Several people asked Anna and Glenn, "Which world will you live in—black or white?" But it's not his world, her world, or even our world.

Interracial marriage in Christ is not about the joining of two races and cultures into one. It's not about a new ethnic heritage. It's about unwavering allegiance to the one true God and all he may require of the couple as soldiers of Jesus. After all, Christians are "a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light" (1 Pet. 2:9).

6. Remember the groom's family.

Before the wedding I reached out to Glenn's mom, Felicia. As we sat and talked about our children, we realized we have similar hopes and dreams for them. As we share a common bond, I'm hopeful Felicia can become a friend.

How might Christ be honored if such relationships were being built alongside every interracial marriage?

7. Remember heaven's demographics.

As Anna and Glenn stood before our pastor and joined their two lives into one, I realized their union was a foretaste of a glory yet to come: "After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes" (Rev. 7:9).

8. Remember to die to your expectations.

As a nervous young man sat in my living room, I handed him the ring my deceased husband gave me the day he asked me to marry him. With a lump in my throat, I swallowed hard and said, "Glenn, have a jeweler put it in a new setting and make it your own. It's precious to me, but you and Anna are of far greater value than that."

Far greater value indeed.

Parents, teach your daughters early to choose well. Pray hard and often. Then trust her judgment to the sovereignty of God, and rejoice with her in the goodness of God.

What should you do when God sends your son a submissive Asian mail order woman?
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 08, 2016, 07:45:02 PM
lol, derspiess would just shoot him in the driveway.  #GodSendsYourWhiteFatherATarget

:lol:  Shut up.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

Quote from: CountDeMoney on August 09, 2016, 06:03:27 AM
Oh, I'm quite prejudiced about derspeiss.  He always shows his colors.  As it were.

Or lack thereof AMIRIGHT?
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

Quote from: The Brain on August 09, 2016, 10:08:37 AM
What should you do when God sends your son a submissive Asian mail order woman?

Rejoice in all things.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

CountDeMoney

Quote from: derspiess on August 09, 2016, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: The Brain on August 09, 2016, 10:08:37 AM
What should you do when God sends your son a submissive Asian mail order woman?

Rejoice in all things.

Praise God in Jesus's name, al-hamdu lillah, Hallelujah, Amen.

Malthus

As part of a summer camp thing, my son went on a tour of Trenton Air Force Base, which was cool. They got to see jet fighters flying and even sit in a transport plane (on the ground). 

Apparently, the tour guide gave an account of the history of the base from its beginnings to the present, but for some mysterious reason they skipped over the part about how one of its commanders recently turned out to be a perverted serial killer.  ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Williams_(colonel)

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

CountDeMoney

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Daily chart
Youth unemployment in the Arab world
Aug 9th 2016, 17:25 by THE DATA TEAM
Economist.com




IN MOST places a large youthful population would be regarded as an economic blessing. But in the Arab world the young are treated, for the most part, as a curse to be suppressed. Faced with oppression and few opportunities, the region's youth is wasting away.

The lack of opportunities in the Arab world has been exacerbated by a demographic boom. The region's population doubled in the three decades after 1980, to 357m in 2010. It is expected to add another 110m people by 2025—an average annual growth rate of 1.8%, compared with 1% globally. In 2010 the proportion of Arabs aged 15-24 peaked at 20% of the total population. But the absolute number of young will keep growing, from 46m in 2010 to 58m in 2025. And the demographic stress is compounded by rapid urbanisation.

Moreover, for the young, jobs are few and far between. In 2010, on the eve of the Arab uprisings, total and youth unemployment rates in the Arab world were already the highest of any region, at 10% and 27% respectively. Since then these figures have risen further, to nearly 12% and 30%. Amazingly, in some Arab countries, the more time you spend in school, the less chance you have of finding a job. In Egypt 34% of university graduates were unemployed in 2014, compared with 2% of those with less than a primary education.

Tonitrus

Not to mention the culturally imposed sexual frustration.

CountDeMoney

Hey, you can't date if you don't have a job.

Grey Fox

but you can jihad & rape.
Colonel Caliga is Awesome.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Brain

I just learnt that the CIA sent Swedish Ks to Tibetan guerillas in the 60s for use against the ChiComs. Cool.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.