The Off Topic Topic

[CountDeMoney]

You know what kind of employer asks for 13 years' experience on a job description?   A dickhead, that's who.  That's simply just being a dick.

What's the position, CEO? Jesus fuck.

Here's another one, albeit more defined.

This position requires a minimum of fifteen years experience, of which at least eight years must be specialized. Specialized experience includes: project development from inception to deployment, expertise in the management and control of funds and resources using complex reporting mechanisms, demonstrated capability in managing multi-task contracts and/or subcontracts of various types and complexity. General experience includes increasing responsibilities in information systems and/or management

·         With a Masters degree (in the fields described in section II above): thirteen years general experience, of which at least seven years specialized experience is required.

·         With a Ph.D. (in the fields described in section II above), twelve years general experience, of which at least six years must be specialized experience.

·         The individual must also have documented experience managing a project staff of more than twelve persons, the majority of whom have a technical background and perform information security-related tasks.

13...12...7...what is this, Christological numerology? 

POSITION REPORTS TO :
THEODOR OF MOPSUESTIA
HOME OFFICE, ANTIOCH

[Ideologue]

Seriously, I do assume this is some kind of super-senior managerial position.

[CountDeMoney]

It's called a "Mid Manager" position. 

I'd hate to see what Sr Assoc VP would look like.  Yikes.

[alfred russel]

Probably the candidate they have already decided to give the job to has 13 years experience.

[Malthus]

Seriously, I do assume this is some kind of super-senior managerial position.

What with credential inflation these days, it's probably for the position of assistant janitor. 

[Admiral Yi]

In an article in the NYT on "the myth of America's manufacturing resurgence," Steven Rattner (Obama's Car Tsar) claims that German autoworkers make $67 an hour.

Surely that can't be right, can it?

[CountDeMoney]

In an article in the NYT on "the myth of America's manufacturing resurgence," Steven Rattner (Obama's Car Tsar) claims that German autoworkers make $67 an hour.

Surely that can't be right, can it?

Forbes:  How Germany Builds Twice As Many Cars As The U.S. While Paying Its Workers Twice As Much.  You won't like it, though;  it references Remapping Debate.

Damned unions are going to be the end of Germany.

[Ideologue]

the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary in benefits

Hey, Money, where's the outrage?

[CountDeMoney]

the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary in benefits

Hey, Money, where's the outrage?

I've got my own problems.

[Ideologue]

So do we, apparently.

At Volkswagen's Chattanooga plant, the nonunionized new employees get $14.50 an hour, which rises to $19.50 after three years.

Wow.  I always assumed it started at $18 or so--they go through temp agencies iirc--and was around $25 once you became a perm.

[Ideologue]

Oops, I read that as the Greer BMW plant.  Maybe $14.50 goes further in WV.

[Admiral Yi]

Chattanooga, WV?

[Eddie Teach]

I suspect those jobs are easier than they used to be.

[Ideologue]

Chattanooga, WV?

TN.

Are unripened bananas poison?  They taste like poison.

[Ed Anger]

Yuk.