9 dead in motorcyle gang gunfight at Texas restaurant

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Admiral Yi

#60
May 19, 2015, 11:06:12 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 19, 2015, 11:04:11 AM
Berkut does make a good point.  It could be argued that everyone there did stand their ground.

Except the first guy.

lustindarkness

#61
May 19, 2015, 11:06:31 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 19, 2015, 11:04:11 AM
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Berkut does make a good point.  It could be argued that everyone there did stand their ground.

If they were smart they would have gone prone, or at least kneeled down. :duh:
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derspiess

#62
May 19, 2015, 11:10:45 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 19, 2015, 11:04:11 AM
Berkut does make a good point.  It could be argued that everyone there did stand their ground.

I just enjoy watching him argue with nobody.
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Berkut

#63
May 19, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 19, 2015, 11:06:12 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on May 19, 2015, 11:04:11 AM
Berkut does make a good point.  It could be argued that everyone there did stand their ground.

Except the first guy.

Zimmerman has proven that the "first guy" can start shooting without anyone else doing anything even illegal. As long as he can claim he felt threatened, he is all set to start shooting.
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Admiral Yi

#64
May 19, 2015, 11:29:48 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 19, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
Zimmerman has proven that the "first guy" can start shooting without anyone else doing anything even illegal. As long as he can claim he felt threatened, he is all set to start shooting.

In Iowa at least it's illegal to bash someone's head against a sidewalk.

Razgovory

#65
May 19, 2015, 11:35:25 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 19, 2015, 11:29:48 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 19, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
Zimmerman has proven that the "first guy" can start shooting without anyone else doing anything even illegal. As long as he can claim he felt threatened, he is all set to start shooting.

In Iowa at least it's illegal to bash someone's head against a sidewalk.

It illegal to stalk someone?
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

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Admiral Yi

#66
May 19, 2015, 11:36:37 AM
Not sure I see the relevance Raz.

Razgovory

#67
May 19, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 19, 2015, 11:36:37 AM
Not sure I see the relevance Raz.

Zimmerman was stalking the young Mr. Martin before the shooting.  Following him round in his car, then getting out to bother him.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

#68
May 19, 2015, 11:39:47 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 19, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
Zimmerman was stalking the young Mr. Martin before the shooting.  Following him round in his car, then getting out to bother him.

I still don't see the relevance.

Do you understand what Throbby and I were talking about?

Valmy

#69
May 19, 2015, 12:11:05 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 19, 2015, 11:29:48 AM
Quote from: Berkut on May 19, 2015, 11:28:40 AM
Zimmerman has proven that the "first guy" can start shooting without anyone else doing anything even illegal. As long as he can claim he felt threatened, he is all set to start shooting.

In Iowa at least it's illegal to bash someone's head against a sidewalk.

I am allowed to shoot anybody I see committing a crime?

In any case an obviously mentally unstable criminal like Zimmerman who provoked a confrontation in defiance of law enforcement is not credible.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Admiral Yi

#70
May 19, 2015, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2015, 12:11:05 PM
I am allowed to shoot anybody I see committing a crime?

Of course not.  Why do you ask?

Valmy

#71
May 19, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 19, 2015, 11:39:47 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 19, 2015, 11:38:54 AM
Zimmerman was stalking the young Mr. Martin before the shooting.  Following him round in his car, then getting out to bother him.

I still don't see the relevance.

Do you understand what Throbby and I were talking about?

He provoked a violent confrontation that resulted in a child's death and it was ok.  I think that is basically what Berkut was saying.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Valmy

#72
May 19, 2015, 12:13:52 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on May 19, 2015, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2015, 12:11:05 PM
I am allowed to shoot anybody I see committing a crime?

Of course not.  Why do you ask?


Then how is it being a crime relevent to the situation?
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

derspiess

#73
May 19, 2015, 12:15:40 PM
Child?  Please.
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Admiral Yi

#74
May 19, 2015, 12:20:06 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2015, 12:12:51 PM
He provoked a violent confrontation that resulted in a child's death and it was ok.  I think that is basically what Berkut was saying.

"Zimmerman has proven that the "first guy" can start shooting without anyone else doing anything even illegal."

This is basically what he said.
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