11 dead in French satirical magazine shooting

Started by Brazen, January 07, 2015, 06:49:08 AM

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Barrister

Quote from: Viking on January 07, 2015, 01:58:22 PM
Quote from: Barrister on January 07, 2015, 01:55:53 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 07, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
One or two bbc journalists* aren't covering themselves in glory on this, "The Prophet Mohammed".  :rolleyes:

Saying The Prophet Mohammed is no different than saying Jesus Christ (which means Jesus the Messiah).

Prophet is a word in english, Christ isn't.

Disagree:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/christ?s=t
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The Brain

By saying "The Prophet Mohammed" they identify him as the Mohammed who is worshipped by Muslims. BFD.
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Admiral Yi

False accusation by mongers.  15 yard penalty, replay the down.

Liep

Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 07, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
False accusation by mongers.  15 yard penalty, replay the down.

Wrong sports reference in use. Yellow carded.
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Liep on January 07, 2015, 02:07:58 PM
Wrong sports reference in use. Yellow carded.

Irrelevant point raised.  One free throw and retain possession.

derspiess

Quote from: Liep on January 07, 2015, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 07, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
False accusation by mongers.  15 yard penalty, replay the down.

Wrong sports reference in use. Yellow carded.

Both of you knock it off or you're going into the penalty box for five minute majors.
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mongers

Quote from: Malthus on January 07, 2015, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 07, 2015, 01:58:43 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 07, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
One or two bbc journalists* aren't covering themselves in glory on this, "The Prophet Mohammed".  :rolleyes:


Surely "The Alleged Prophet Mohammed" would be more accurate and neutral?




* I wonder if it's a bbc inhouse editorial guide or are the covering their own arses by attempting to placate religious extremists who might come after them?

Prophets is a self proclaimed title. It's ok to use it for all prophets.

Agreed.

What would suck is if Muslims were able to convince journalists to *only* use the word "prophet" for Mohammed, and no-one else.

When was the last time you heard a journalist say "Jesus Christ the Messiah" or "Christ the Messiah"? 

The point I'm making is some journalist are intentionally using it, to conform with the Islamic claim that he is God's final prophet. 

It's a relatively recent change with some journalist in the UK.
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Malthus

Quote from: mongers on January 07, 2015, 02:17:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on January 07, 2015, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 07, 2015, 01:58:43 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 07, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
One or two bbc journalists* aren't covering themselves in glory on this, "The Prophet Mohammed".  :rolleyes:


Surely "The Alleged Prophet Mohammed" would be more accurate and neutral?




* I wonder if it's a bbc inhouse editorial guide or are the covering their own arses by attempting to placate religious extremists who might come after them?

Prophets is a self proclaimed title. It's ok to use it for all prophets.

Agreed.

What would suck is if Muslims were able to convince journalists to *only* use the word "prophet" for Mohammed, and no-one else.

When was the last time you heard a journalist say "Jesus Christ the Messiah" or "Christ the Messiah"? 

The point I'm making is some journalist are intentionally using it, to conform with the Islamic claim that he is God's final prophet. 

It's a relatively recent change with some journalist in the UK.

Isn't "Christ the Messiah" wrong? The word Christ = Messiah.
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KRonn

This is terrible. So sad, and so maddening that these extremists exist to do this kind of thing when someone disagrees with their extremism. I'm sure all of France is in some turmoil over this, with at least Paris where it occurred in some kind of shutdown.

Berkut

Quote from: derspiess on January 07, 2015, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: Liep on January 07, 2015, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 07, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
False accusation by mongers.  15 yard penalty, replay the down.

Wrong sports reference in use. Yellow carded.

Both of you knock it off or you're going into the penalty box for five minute majors.

Bumphing. Catcher gets a penalty shot.
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Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: mongers on January 07, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
One or two bbc journalists* aren't covering themselves in glory on this, "The Prophet Mohammed".  :rolleyes:

Am I the only one who can't parse this sentence? :huh:

garbon

Quote from: mongers on January 07, 2015, 02:17:03 PM
Quote from: Malthus on January 07, 2015, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on January 07, 2015, 01:58:43 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 07, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
One or two bbc journalists* aren't covering themselves in glory on this, "The Prophet Mohammed".  :rolleyes:


Surely "The Alleged Prophet Mohammed" would be more accurate and neutral?




* I wonder if it's a bbc inhouse editorial guide or are the covering their own arses by attempting to placate religious extremists who might come after them?

Prophets is a self proclaimed title. It's ok to use it for all prophets.

Agreed.

What would suck is if Muslims were able to convince journalists to *only* use the word "prophet" for Mohammed, and no-one else.

When was the last time you heard a journalist say "Jesus Christ the Messiah" or "Christ the Messiah"? 

The point I'm making is some journalist are intentionally using it, to conform with the Islamic claim that he is God's final prophet. 

It's a relatively recent change with some journalist in the UK.

A quick google news archive search reveals many American news sources and a few like using "Prophet Muhammad" or "prophet Muhammad" frequently as early as 2005. Bet if I did a bit more digging I could find hits for more UK outlets. ;)
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Malthus

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on January 07, 2015, 02:19:51 PM
Quote from: mongers on January 07, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
One or two bbc journalists* aren't covering themselves in glory on this, "The Prophet Mohammed".  :rolleyes:

Am I the only one who can't parse this sentence? :huh:

He's complaining about the use of the title "prophet" for Mohammed.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Liep

Wow, a somewhat respected newspaper here just published this article on their website: "IS: Denmark will be next". It contains a series of tweets from people sympathising with IS saying that Denmark will also be attacked.

Oh my.
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"JamenajmenømahrmDÆ!DÆ! Æhvnårvaæhvadlelæh! Hvor er det crazy, det her, mand!" - Uffe Elbæk

Barrister

Quote from: Berkut on January 07, 2015, 02:19:47 PM
Quote from: derspiess on January 07, 2015, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: Liep on January 07, 2015, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 07, 2015, 02:06:41 PM
False accusation by mongers.  15 yard penalty, replay the down.

Wrong sports reference in use. Yellow carded.

Both of you knock it off or you're going into the penalty box for five minute majors.

Bumphing. Catcher gets a penalty shot.

Meh - we follow the honour system.  If the curler did an illegal move he is expected to remove his own rock from play.
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