European Islamophobia

[Jacob]

Mongers is right, IMO, that a number of American posters were pretty anti-Muslim around the Iraq wars etc.

I don't think it's particularly ironic, in that the posters who were are not the same ones as are taking Euros to task over any anti-Muslim attitudes. Except possibly CdM, but that's just how he rolls with this stuff - generally progressive in outlook, incredibly racist in mode of expression, always willing to tell Euros they're shit... and everyone else too, really.

[garbon]

Mongers is right, IMO, that a number of American posters were pretty anti-Muslim around the Iraq wars etc.

I don't think it's particularly ironic, in that the posters who were are not the same ones as are taking Euros to task over any anti-Muslim attitudes.

But that's exactly the thing. He's spinning a narrative of hypocritical Americans who espouse anti-muslim attitudes and then are now taking Euros to task over that.

[Jacob]

Mongers is right, IMO, that a number of American posters were pretty anti-Muslim around the Iraq wars etc.

I don't think it's particularly ironic, in that the posters who were are not the same ones as are taking Euros to task over any anti-Muslim attitudes.

But that's exactly the thing. He's spinning a narrative of hypocritical Americans who espouse anti-muslim attitudes and then are now taking Euros to task over that.

He probably has a hard time telling Americans apart from one another.

[11B4V]

Mongers is right, IMO, that a number of American posters were pretty anti-Muslim around the Iraq wars etc.

I don't think it's particularly ironic, in that the posters who were are not the same ones as are taking Euros to task over any anti-Muslim attitudes. Except possibly CdM, but that's just how he rolls with this stuff - generally progressive in outlook, incredibly racist in mode of expression, always willing to tell Euros they're shit... and everyone else too, really.

It's natural. I hated Russians up til '92 or so.

[Ed Anger]

I hate:

Geordies
Mouthy Krauts
Sanctimonious Nordics
Serbs
Russians
MOUTH SUGA
Wops
Dagos
Zipperheads
Crackers
Moon crickets
Beaners
Frost backs
Eggplants
Camel jockeys of all stripes
Curry eaters
Bogans

[11B4V]

I hate:

Geordies
Mouthy Krauts
Sanctimonious Nordics
Serbs
Russians
MOUTH SUGA
Wops
Dagos
Zipperheads
Crackers
Moon crickets
Beaners
Frost backs
Eggplants
Camel jockeys of all stripes
Curry eaters
Bogans

I don't not like mannequins.

[mongers]

Mongers is right, IMO, that a number of American posters were pretty anti-Muslim around the Iraq wars etc.

I don't think it's particularly ironic, in that the posters who were are not the same ones as are taking Euros to task over any anti-Muslim attitudes.

But that's exactly the thing. He's spinning a narrative of hypocritical Americans who espouse anti-muslim attitudes and then are now taking Euros to task over that.

He probably has a hard time telling Americans apart from one another.

Well I have a hard time recalling the ones who weren't at the time revelling in some of the violence meeted out in Iraq.   

Do you recall that thread we had about the apache helicopter footage released by I  think by wikileaks, that showed those Iraqi, militia and/or civilians being chewed up by cannon fire and possibly missile strikes, iirc several posters thought that pretty neat. Are one or two of those now taking a more nuanced approach to the Middle East and Muslim, both in the light of experience and as an opportunity to attack Europeans ? 

I can't prove these, because we don't have the old databases of posting nor the access the original Paradox OT. 
So it's just my impression, does that make it untruthful?

[Admiral Yi]

What's a "bogan?"

[Jacob]

What's a "bogan?"

I think it's an Australian redneck, basically.

[Ed Anger]

What's a "bogan?"

I think it's an Australian redneck, basically.

Yep.

[garbon]

So it's just my impression, does that make it untruthful?

It makes you extremely unreliable.

[Admiral Yi]

Do you recall that thread we had about the apache helicopter footage released by I  think by wikileaks, that showed those Iraqi, militia and/or civilians being chewed up by cannon fire and possibly missile strikes, iirc several posters thought that pretty neat. Are one or two of those now taking a more nuanced approach to the Middle East and Muslim, both in the light of experience and as an opportunity to attack Europeans ? 

What I remember about that event were the accusations of purposefully targeting journalists, and the careful editing job Assange did to hide the fact that the reporter and his cameraman were in the midst of armed Iraqis who were firing on the Apache.

Is that different than your memory?

[dps]

Mongers is right, IMO, that a number of American posters were pretty anti-Muslim around the Iraq wars etc.

I don't think it's particularly ironic, in that the posters who were are not the same ones as are taking Euros to task over any anti-Muslim attitudes.

But that's exactly the thing. He's spinning a narrative of hypocritical Americans who espouse anti-muslim attitudes and then are now taking Euros to task over that.

He probably has a hard time telling Americans apart from one another.

Well I have a hard time recalling the ones who weren't at the time revelling in some of the violence meeted out in Iraq.   

That's not necessarily racist, though.  If we had video footage of Massachusetts militiamen sticking it to the Redcoat during the battles of Lexington and Concord, bet some Americans would revel at that, too.

[derspiess]

It's a rather odd sight to see some North American posters taking Europeans to task over they're attitudes to muslim and islam, given the overtly racists attitudes expressed here by a few of those same posters in the run up to, and the immediate aftermath of Iraq war.

Links, plz.

Convenient isn't it. 

Yeah your criticism is convenient. Nameless Americans saying unspecified things.

I'd like to at least know who he's talking about. 

[derspiess]

That's not necessarily racist, though.  If we had video footage of Massachusetts militiamen sticking it to the Redcoat during the battles of Lexington and Concord, bet some Americans would revel at that, too.

You guys should have seen me when I saw The Patriot in the theater.  High Fives all around.