Scottish Independence

[Admiral Yi]

Why the ?

Because that debt was incurred communally.  You can't just walk away from your obligations.

[jimmy olsen]

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James Forsyth @JGForsyth

An experienced number cruncher tells me that No will win by more than 8 points. Looking like Better Together's confidence was justified

From political correspondent Rowena Mason in London backing up what we're hearing elsewhere about Aberdeenshire:

    A senior Labour source told the Guardian it looks like the yes campaign will lose in Salmond's backyard of Aberdeenshire.

[jimmy olsen]

Clackmanshire!

Turnout88.6%
Yes16,350
No19,036

[Legbiter]

Looks like Scotland's staying put in the UK.

[jimmy olsen]

Clackmanshire!

Turnout88.6%
Yes16,350
No19,036

Damn, beat me by 23 seconds, but you spelt it wrong.   

I need to keep my edge! 

[Sheilbh]

No won Clackmannanshire (54%) which is apparently a surprise. But I don't know how you'd know. We've no previous referendum to compare with just polls (which aren't that advanced) so it's just slightly projected.

I trust John Curtice who says it still looks like a tight race, Yes would've been happy with this a couple of weeks ago but less so now and it's a small area. But it's leaning No.

Because that debt was incurred communally.  You can't just walk away from your obligations.

How much debt is Scotland's then?

I don't know if that's how it'd work legally. The debt was incurred by the UK and the rUK would still be liable for it, I'm not sure a successor state automatically would. Given that there'd be a lot of negotiation of how to apportion the debt I can't believe that it's some smooth automatic process. No doubt for that reason and to reassure the markets in general the UK government has said that they guarantee all debt incurred up to independence even if it becomes 'Scottish debt'.

[Sheilbh]

Clackmanshire!

[Sheilbh]

Yes have apparently conceded defeat in West Lothian too.

[Tamas]

Why the ?

Because that debt was incurred communally.  You can't just walk away from your obligations.

The yes people are socialist. Taking other people's money for themselves is what they do.

[Sheilbh]

The yes people are socialist. Taking other people's money for themselves is what they do.

The No campaign is being led by Labour and Gordon Brown quoted Marx in his barnstorming unionist speech

Edit: Meanwhile to repeat it again the only promise the SNP have made for a future Scotland is to cut corporation tax.

[Sheilbh]

Turnout of over 90% in some regions

[Grey Fox]

Scotland

[Tamas]

The yes people are socialist. Taking other people's money for themselves is what they do.

The No campaign is being led by Labour and Gordon Brown quoted Marx in his barnstorming unionist speech

Edit: Meanwhile to repeat it again the only promise the SNP have made for a future Scotland is to cut corporation tax.

The Economist claimed the "bedroom tax" was also mentioned. Plus they always talk about the oil and how independent  Scotland could spend more

[Razgovory]

The yes people are socialist. Taking other people's money for themselves is what they do.

The No campaign is being led by Labour and Gordon Brown quoted Marx in his barnstorming unionist speech

Edit: Meanwhile to repeat it again the only promise the SNP have made for a future Scotland is to cut corporation tax.

Maybe he confused "Yes" and "No".

[HVC]

Scotland

The dream is better than the reality. the separatists can now dream about what could have been, rather than living the dismal reality that they wrought. you should feel happy for them