Staind singer stops concert to demand audience members stop ‘molesting’ teen

[Valmy]

As I was scrolling down, I noticed it quoted Marshall University as a source, which validated my decision not to read.

[Valmy]

Woah. "Teaching women to avoid getting raped instead of teaching men not to rape" is an example of "rape culture"?

This is a perfect example of the culture/crime divide. Most men, I suspect, do not think that other men rape because they don't know how not to, but because they are criminal assholes.

You can't "teach" somebody how not to be a criminal asshole - they are that way because they enjoy being that way.

I don't believe that, say, teaching a woman self-defence rather that tut-tutting over men raping makes you a part of The Problem(tm).

I actually think it is important to teach boys about acceptable standards of consent and all that.  I mean nobody does so that just sets them up for doing something stupid like kissing a passed out woman.

[derspiess]

And to think he went on to porn.

He did?  I guess maybe that was the only way he could figure out how to cash in on his 15 minutes?

[garbon]

And to think he went on to porn.

He did?  I guess maybe that was the only way he could figure out how to cash in on his 15 minutes?

Yeah, I know he has at least one vid and then also has a very NSFW twitter feed of himself.

[Valmy]

From Valmy's post I'm guessing it was chiding men for not being chivalrous enough when women are being harassed or something.  I don't see that happening much these days wherever I am, but I guess I'm in my bubble. 

YOUR PRIVILEGE BUBBLE!!!111

But seriously it was more like if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem type stuff.

[Valmy]

And to think he went on to porn.

He did?  I guess maybe that was the only way he could figure out how to cash in on his 15 minutes?

Yeah, I know he has at least one vid and then also has a very NSFW twitter feed of himself.

Does one make money off a twitter feed?  Or is it just amateur porn he does?

[PRC]

According to this RadFem blog... all PIV sex is rape: http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/

[garbon]

And to think he went on to porn.

He did?  I guess maybe that was the only way he could figure out how to cash in on his 15 minutes?

Yeah, I know he has at least one vid and then also has a very NSFW twitter feed of himself.

Does one make money off a twitter feed?  Or is it just amateur porn he does?

Probably the latter. I didn't spend that much time looking into it.

[derspiess]

I actually think it is important to teach boys about acceptable standards of consent and all that.  I mean nobody does so that just sets them up for doing something stupid like kissing a passed out woman.

To me it's kind of sad if you have to sit a boy down and spell all that out.  I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, and I'm not saying I won't with my kid.  But with the values I was raised with, harassment/groping/rape always just seemed unthinkable.  My personality type may also have something to do with that, I guess.

[Malthus]

According to this RadFem blog... all PIV sex is rape: http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/

Yes, but this writer is quite clearly nuts. 

[garbon]

According to this RadFem blog... all PIV sex is rape: http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/

PIV is a man mounting on a woman to thrust a large member of himself into her most intimate parts, often forcing her to be entirely naked, banging himself against her with the whole weight of his body and hips, shaking her like he would stuff a corpse, then using her insides as a receptacle for his penile dejection.

Also, large?

[garbon]

I actually think it is important to teach boys about acceptable standards of consent and all that.  I mean nobody does so that just sets them up for doing something stupid like kissing a passed out woman.

To me it's kind of sad if you have to sit a boy down and spell all that out.  I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, and I'm not saying I won't with my kid.  But with the values I was raised with, harassment/groping/rape always just seemed unthinkable.  My personality type may also have something to do with that, I guess.

I was put through aversion therapy to make sure I would never touch a woman.

[Valmy]

According to this RadFem blog... all PIV sex is rape: http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/

Intercourse is the very means through which men oppress us, from which we are not allowed to escape, yet some instances of or PIV and intercourse may be chosen and free?

She is like the Saint Augustine of Feminists.  Sure the human race may go extinct but it will go extinct righteously.

[derspiess]

According to this RadFem blog... all PIV sex is rape: http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/

Bleh.  I've been hearing that line since my freshman political science class in 1991.

[Ideologue]

According to this RadFem blog... all PIV sex is rape: http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/

PIV is a man mounting on a woman to thrust a large member of himself into her most intimate parts, often forcing her to be entirely naked, banging himself against her with the whole weight of his body and hips, shaking her like he would stuff a corpse, then using her insides as a receptacle for his penile dejection.

Also, large?

I'm get the distinct feeling this is some kind of strange erotic literature.

Anyway, if I pass a big black dude on the street and tense up, that's still racist right?  Not that I'm saying women don't have right and reason to be leery of strange men.  Only that, as far as I can tell, they're exactly analogous situations.