Staind singer stops concert to demand audience members stop ‘molesting’ teen

[merithyn]

I agree with every point derspeiss says here.

One very public false accusation can undo a decade of forward progress for all those victims to come. That's a major issue.

Well then, I didn't think I'd see the day.

I have found an issue where I'm more feminist than merithyn.

It's okay. I still think you're manly.

[merithyn]

If Merithyn was a Feminist blogger she would have ripped to shreds to left to die by the internet Feminist purity patrol long ago.

Not to hear Legbiter and derspeiss tell it.

I've always kind of considered myself a moderate when it comes to feminism, at least compared to the bra-burners. But apparently to Languishites, I make the bra-burners look positively June Cleaverish.

[Ideologue]

Only rarely have I seen Meri engage in what we'd pejoratively call identity politics.  Usually because of something I did.

[derspiess]

Not to hear Legbiter and derspeiss tell it.

I've always kind of considered myself a moderate when it comes to feminism, at least compared to the bra-burners. But apparently to Languishites, I make the bra-burners look positively June Cleaverish.

You throw me off sometimes by making radical-sounding statements and then later sounding more moderate.  Kinda frustrating for me because I'm usually able to get a good read on people early on

[derspiess]

Only rarely have I seen Meri engage in what we'd pejoratively call identity politics.  Usually because of something I did.

I think I've set her off more times than you have.

[garbon]

You have to be drunk the point where you're incapable of giving consent - i.e. you're unconscious or no longer capable of speaking comprehensibly.

Having sex while drunk is still perfectly legal, to the relief of university students everywhere.

Oh. Well, that makes it much less gray, as it's usually kind of hard for two unconscious people to engage in coitus. Not impossible, but definitely harder.

Yeah though I think bit in bold seems in play. It isn't like you need a lot of communication to have sex / can still have (even if not full penetrative) some sort of sexual contact while that intoxicated. Seems like it could be hard to determine if someone consented especially if he comes down to he said/she said (and other gender permutations).

[Ideologue]

Only rarely have I seen Meri engage in what we'd pejoratively call identity politics.  Usually because of something I did.

I think I've set her off more times than you have.

No, she's surprisingly patient with you.

[merithyn]

Not to hear Legbiter and derspeiss tell it.

I've always kind of considered myself a moderate when it comes to feminism, at least compared to the bra-burners. But apparently to Languishites, I make the bra-burners look positively June Cleaverish.

You throw me off sometimes by making radical-sounding statements and then later sounding more moderate.  Kinda frustrating for me because I'm usually able to get a good read on people early on

That's because you assume that if I feel one way about a topic, I follow the entire political bent for that topic, which I rarely do.

[merithyn]

Only rarely have I seen Meri engage in what we'd pejoratively call identity politics.  Usually because of something I did.

I think I've set her off more times than you have.

No, she's surprisingly patient with you.

I'm patient with both of you.

[derspiess]

That's because you assume that if I feel one way about a topic, I follow the entire political bent for that topic, which I rarely do.

Then tone down your opening statements

[derspiess]

I'm patient with both of you.

Oh, there are some days where that's not the case

[merithyn]

That's because you assume that if I feel one way about a topic, I follow the entire political bent for that topic, which I rarely do.

Then tone down your opening statements

Dude, after 10 years, you'd think you'd know me well enough by now to know that I probably have a far more moderate view than it seems at first blush.

[CountDeMoney]

Only rarely have I seen Meri engage in what we'd pejoratively call identity politics.  Usually because of something I did.

Your identity sucks ass balls.

[11B4V]

Staind sucks and is gay.

[dps]

Only rarely have I seen Meri engage in what we'd pejoratively call identity politics.  Usually because of something I did.

I think I've set her off more times than you have.

Are you guys competing on that?