How Japan’s ‘BBC’ is rewriting its role in the Second World War

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Malthus

Quote from: Jacob on February 13, 2014, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 13, 2014, 03:43:16 PMThere is no question that *some* men here are into underage girls, but it is not socially acceptable. In Japan, apparently, it is.

Depends what you mean by "socially acceptable". I think that dudes who are into that sort of stuff are still thought of as creeps and losers by the majority who are not. But you can still produce, sell, and buy stuff that caters to those tastes.

It is without doubt *more* socially acceptable in Japan, seeing how so much of anime uses that theme, how widespread and popular that anime is, and how open the depictions of pedophilia are in at least some of it. 
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Ed Anger

Speaking of Hooters, I took my son in there a while back. Every damn waitress in the house fawned over him. He got attention, I got spectacular views.

Totally awesome.  :cool:
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Razgovory

I wonder if the making airplane girls, nation girls, battleship girls etc stems from Japan's more animist leaning traditional religion.
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alfred russel

Quote from: Barrister on February 13, 2014, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 13, 2014, 11:56:58 AM
My problem with Hooters is I don't know what proper customer behavior is.  Are you supposed to perv on the waitresses and make comments to your buddies about their tits, or are you supposed to pretend you're in an Applebees?

I've been in a Hooters once and I found it surreal.

On the other hand, the Bikini Bar I visited in Austin made perfect sense to me.

That's a good point.  I have no philosophical objection to Hooters and the like, but generally do not attend for pretty much that reason.

There are a few former coworkers that I have lunch with every so often just to stay in touch. We always go to Hooters or Tilted Kilt (its scottish themed clone). I actually think it is better because the atmosphere stays unprofessional (which is a danger when you are keeping in touch with former colleagues). The waitresses are cute and flirt with you a bit and give the table a topic of conversation. Why not? At least here, the prices are really about the same as any other bar.

No one ever hits on the waitresses or anything like that.
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-garbon, February 23, 2014

alfred russel

Quote from: Neil on February 13, 2014, 03:04:55 PM

That's not even close to true.  Britney Spears became a huge star by exploiting the North American hunger for underage T&A.

Her audience was mostly young and skewed female. I know there are members of many age groups that like underage T&A, but at her concerts I would think that most males were young themselves.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Monoriu

Quote from: Malthus on February 13, 2014, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: Jacob on February 13, 2014, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: Malthus on February 13, 2014, 03:43:16 PMThere is no question that *some* men here are into underage girls, but it is not socially acceptable. In Japan, apparently, it is.

Depends what you mean by "socially acceptable". I think that dudes who are into that sort of stuff are still thought of as creeps and losers by the majority who are not. But you can still produce, sell, and buy stuff that caters to those tastes.

It is without doubt *more* socially acceptable in Japan, seeing how so much of anime uses that theme, how widespread and popular that anime is, and how open the depictions of pedophilia are in at least some of it.

I'd say that the depictions of cute, underage girls in skimpy clothing is far less a berserk button in Japan than in the west.  My impression is that anime fans and otakus aren't highly regarded in Japan either.  The difference is that the "we are only talking about fictional characters" argument works in Japan much better than it does in the west.  Plenty of people don't like anime in HK, my parents and wife included.  But they dislike anime for other reasons and don't seem to have a problem with apparently underage girls, because they are animated fictional characters. 

Admiral Yi

The Runaways might be a better example than Britney Spears.  Their European concert audiences in particular were all middle aged guys in raincoats.

Duque de Bragança

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 13, 2014, 04:37:01 PM
The Runaways might be a better example than Britney Spears.  Their European concert audiences in particular were all middle aged guys in raincoats.

Never heard of them, unlike Britney Spears, who had her heyday and fame so on one could escape.

Monoriu

Quote from: Razgovory on February 13, 2014, 04:28:48 PM
I wonder if the making airplane girls, nation girls, battleship girls etc stems from Japan's more animist leaning traditional religion.

I know next to nothing about Japanese religion.  But I think they make airplane girls based on "our target audience likes military hardware, and cute magical girls.  Let's somehow combine the two." 

The Brain

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 13, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
Speaking of Hooters, I took my son in there a while back. Every damn waitress in the house fawned over him. He got attention, I got spectacular views.

Totally awesome.  :cool:

Hitler, worse than.
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Ed Anger

Quote from: The Brain on February 13, 2014, 04:42:56 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 13, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
Speaking of Hooters, I took my son in there a while back. Every damn waitress in the house fawned over him. He got attention, I got spectacular views.

Totally awesome.  :cool:

Hitler, worse than.

:cool:
Stay Alive...Let the Man Drive

Admiral Yi

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 13, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
Never heard of them, unlike Britney Spears, who had her heyday and fame so on one could escape.

Maybe you've heard of Joan Jett?  She started out in The Runaways.

Monoriu

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 13, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
Speaking of Hooters, I took my son in there a while back. Every damn waitress in the house fawned over him. He got attention, I got spectacular views.

Totally awesome.  :cool:

No Hooters in HK.  One, they'd have a real problem with staff recruitment unless they import all waiting staff.  Two, and more importantly, it won't be socially acceptable for most people to go to such places.  I think a Hooters opened in Vancouver during my stay there.  I considered going but decided against it.  I would only go alone, and the experience would totally suck as I was pretty sure that the waitresses wouldn't bother with a table of one. 

Valmy

Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 13, 2014, 02:58:25 PM
That's why I mentioned a retarded provincial bourgeoise as well. As for T&A in North America this is the way it is (strange nobody mentioned it)

"If you suck on a tit the movie gets an R rating. If you hack the tit off with an axe it will be PG."


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Duque de Bragança

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Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 13, 2014, 04:44:33 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 13, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
Never heard of them, unlike Britney Spears, who had her heyday and fame so on one could escape.

Maybe you've heard of Joan Jett?  She started out in The Runaways.

Indeed, but Joan Jett's audience is not exactly middle-aged guys in raincoats since she was not underage when she did the cover(s) who brought her fame, so I don't see your point.

PS: covers since in Wayne's World 2 it was not exactly the same as the first