[de Blasio] Living in a post-Bloomberg era

[garbon]

The may not damage the road surface bit seems odd as in like well I didn't know!

Yes, we had them put on our car every time we went up into the mountains.

edit: Apparently snow tires or chains are a requirement at times:

http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/roadinfo/chcontrl.htm

[Maximus]

  Winter tires are cool and bad ass. 



re: tire chains, here's the AAA list for states.
Edit: and Canada.

http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/tire-chains/

They're illegal in Hawaii.  Fucking Obama. 

No one I knew growing up had snow tires, ever. And chains only if you were going out in the bush off main roads.

Edit: And trucks on hills when it was icy.

[Iormlund]

Meh. Just use textile chains - they don't damage the road and I'm guessing won't be banned anywhere. Most people I know carry a set of those (winter tires are not common here for obvious reasons).

Of course if you use them without snow/ice you'll rip them apart in no time.

[OttoVonBismarck]

The link-chain style chains I believe are the best but the ones that damage the road the most. I've noticed USPS trucks around here invariably have chains on in snowy weather (those postal trucks are not 4WD as some people believe), they always use the cable style chains though.

But yeah, it's weird that no one has snow chains any longer. The few times when I was younger that I had to stop to put them on I was at the foot of a hill I was certainly not going to climb without them (I know because I had tried and been sent back to my starting point by Isaac Newton.) It used to be an annual ritual to go get snow tires on your car and lots of tire shops had deals where they'd swap out your tires for free every year if you had bought both your regular/winter tires there at some point.

[Admiral Yi]

I've never heard of textile chains.

[Capetan Mihali]

Ed uses supply chains.

[Neil]

A pair of all-season tires are all you need if you're careful.  Some people prefer winter tires, but I don't think they're necessary.

  Winter tires are cool and bad ass. 



re: tire chains, here's the AAA list for states.
Edit: and Canada.

http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/laws/tire-chains/

They're illegal in Hawaii.  Fucking Obama. 

Obama told me that you would deny him three times.

[garbon]

[Ed Anger]

Ed uses supply chains.

[garbon]

This morning I saw a man (probably not more than 30) waddling down the street holding in one hand a McD's bag and in his other a Big Gulp. My first thought was - where is Bloomberg when you need him?

[derspiess]

Bloomberg would've kicked his ass

[Syt]

He probably would have deported the guy to New Jersey.

[garbon]

http://news.yahoo.com/nypd-stop-seizing-sex-suspects-condoms-173829281.html

NYPD to stop seizing suspected sex workers' condoms

The New York Police Department will no longer confiscate unused condoms from suspected sex workers to be used as evidence of prostitution, ending a longstanding practice that had been criticized by civil rights groups for undermining efforts to combat AIDS and other sexually transmitted infections.

Under the new policy announced Monday, officers may continue to seize condoms as evidence in sex-trafficking and promotion of prostitution cases, but they will not use them in support of prostitution cases. Critics had said the previous policy amounted to police harassment, and noted that New York City spends more than $1 million a year to distribute free condoms.

"The NYPD heard from community health advocates and took a serious look at making changes to our current policy as it relates to our broader public safety mission," Police Commissioner William Bratton said in announcing the new policy.

For decades, police in New York and elsewhere had confiscated condoms from sex work suspects ostensibly for them to be used as evidence in criminal trials, even though the overwhelming majority of prostitution cases never go to trial.

"A policy that inhibits people from safe sex is a mistake and dangerous," Mayor Bill de Blasio said Monday at an unrelated event in Queens. "And there are a number of ways you can go about putting together evidence" without condoms, he said.

A 2010 study by the city's Department of Health surveyed more than 60 sex workers and found that more than half had condoms confiscated by police. Nearly a third said they had at times not carried condoms because they feared getting into trouble.

Two years later, the group Human Rights Watch interviewed 197 sex workers in New York, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles and San Francisco and found that many limited the number of condoms they carried or went without because they feared police attention. The report concluded that transgender teens, street-level sex workers and immigrants were especially targeted because of their appearance or behavior.

Prosecutors in Brooklyn and Long Island's Nassau County and in San Francisco decided last year to no longer use condoms as evidence in prostitution cases. Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance applauded the NYPD's policy change.

"I have long believed that it is possible to address the use of condoms as evidence in misdemeanor prostitution-related cases without weakening our ability to prosecute serious crimes, like sex trafficking," he said. "I commend our partners in the NYPD for their policy change, which will enhance public health and help curb the spread of diseases."

Measures to formally abolish the practice across New York state have been introduced in the Legislature for nearly two decades and last year passed the Assembly. Similar legislation has been introduced in California.

The New York Police Department makes about 2,500 prostitution arrests a year.

One respondent in the Human Rights Watch study, Brooklyn sex worker Pam G., told the researchers she has had condoms taken by police.

"The cops say, 'What are you carrying all those condoms for? We could arrest you just for this,'" she said. "It happens all the time around here. I may be carrying eight condoms. If you have more than three or four, they will take them."

[derspiess]

sex workers

[Jacob]

sex workers

Your bait is getting a bit stale, Spicy.