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Started by Sheilbh, December 03, 2013, 07:39:37 AM

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citizen k

#2730
March 09, 2014, 07:20:34 PM
Drone video shows Russians soldiers in Crimea Armyansk published by Ukraine's Border Guard Service :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTVfznp9Klw


MadImmortalMan

#2731
March 09, 2014, 07:33:49 PM
I think we're past having to prove those are Russian troops at this point.
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CountDeMoney

#2732
March 09, 2014, 07:44:08 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 09, 2014, 07:33:49 PM
I think we're past having to prove those are Russian troops at this point.

Yeah, the only people who honestly believe they aren't Russian troops are Russians.

jimmy olsen

#2733
March 09, 2014, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 09, 2014, 07:44:08 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 09, 2014, 07:33:49 PM
I think we're past having to prove those are Russian troops at this point.

Yeah, the only people who honestly believe they aren't Russian troops are Russians.
Do even they believe that?
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Viking

#2734
March 09, 2014, 09:40:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on March 09, 2014, 09:37:30 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on March 09, 2014, 07:44:08 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on March 09, 2014, 07:33:49 PM
I think we're past having to prove those are Russian troops at this point.

Yeah, the only people who honestly believe they aren't Russian troops are Russians.
Do even they believe that?

When a person both denies russian soliders are in the crimea all the while claiming that russians should get to annex crimea they are doing their best to ignore their cognitive dissonance.

It's like the Iranians that claim both that Iran has a right to build nuclear weapons justifying it's obvious weapons program all the while asserting that Iran isn't going to get nuclear weapons.
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Second Maxim - "Be willing to exchange a bad idea for a good one."
Second Corollary - "You can only be wrong or agree with me."

A terrorist which starts a slaughter quoting Locke, Burke and Mill has completely missed the point.
The fact remains that the only person or group to applaud the Norway massacre are random Islamists.

derspiess

#2735
March 10, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
Looks like ethnic Russians are gearing up for another game of "Kick the Tatar".

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-21-a-crackdown-on-crimean-tatars/
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Ed Anger

#2736
March 10, 2014, 09:15:20 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
Looks like ethnic Russians are gearing up for another game of "Kick the Tatar".

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-21-a-crackdown-on-crimean-tatars/

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grumbler

#2737
March 10, 2014, 09:43:06 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on March 10, 2014, 09:15:20 AM
Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2014, 09:13:53 AM
Looks like ethnic Russians are gearing up for another game of "Kick the Tatar".

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-21-a-crackdown-on-crimean-tatars/

Don't be saucy.
They'd better think of the children and not touch the Tater tots.
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Syt

#2738
March 10, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
German satirical page: "Separatists from Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan call the Crimean referendum 'the best idea Putin ever had' and announce that they will also hold referendums about their nationality on March 16th. The Russian population in these areas is between 0.8 and 3.6%."
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derspiess

#2739
March 10, 2014, 11:46:04 AM
Quote from: Syt on March 10, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
German satirical page: "Separatists from Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan call the Crimean referendum 'the best idea Putin ever had' and announce that they will also hold referendums about their nationality on March 16th. The Russian population in these areas is between 0.8 and 3.6%."

:lol:
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

#2740
March 10, 2014, 01:24:27 PM
Sounds like "Crimean self-defense" troops are moving in on some of the holdout Ukrainian bases in Crimea.  Apparently some shots have been fired but I haven't heard any reports of casualties, which loudly would have been reported by one side or the other.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

Beenherebefore

#2741
March 10, 2014, 01:33:14 PM
Quote from: Syt on March 10, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
German satirical page: "Separatists from Chechnya, Ingushetia and Dagestan call the Crimean referendum 'the best idea Putin ever had' and announce that they will also hold referendums about their nationality on March 16th. The Russian population in these areas is between 0.8 and 3.6%."

Good one.  :)

It's like Russia running to the UN Security Council every time they see their interests being threatened.
Now all of a sudden a referendum is a great idea.

In any case, I believe there is a silver lining; more export brides for us.
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Admiral Yi

#2742
March 10, 2014, 01:33:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2014, 01:24:27 PM
Sounds like "Crimean self-defense" troops are moving in on some of the holdout Ukrainian bases in Crimea.  Apparently some shots have been fired but I haven't heard any reports of casualties, which loudly would have been reported by one side or the other.

Warning shots have already been fired and caught on tape.

Beenherebefore

#2743
March 10, 2014, 01:36:50 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 10, 2014, 01:33:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on March 10, 2014, 01:24:27 PM
Sounds like "Crimean self-defense" troops are moving in on some of the holdout Ukrainian bases in Crimea.  Apparently some shots have been fired but I haven't heard any reports of casualties, which loudly would have been reported by one side or the other.

Warning shots have already been fired and caught on tape.

If the observers are from the EU, it is caught on red tape. True story.
The artist formerly known as Norgy

Admiral Yi

#2744
March 10, 2014, 01:37:35 PM
Quote from: Beenherebefore on March 10, 2014, 01:36:50 PM
If the observers are from the EU, it is caught on red tape. True story.

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