Ukraine's European Revolution?

[HVC]

You know what's the saddest thing about this whole mess? That Tom Clancy isn't here to see it.

Have you heard the conspiracy theory going around that Tom Clancy was killed by That Guy (aka The Imperial President, The Black Napoleon, The Light of the West, Big Brother's Keeper, The Terror of the WASP, Waspbane, The Necromancer, etc.)

*drinks the entire bottle*

i think he beat you to the bottle.

[Ed Anger]

You know what's the saddest thing about this whole mess? That Tom Clancy isn't here to see it.

Have you heard the conspiracy theory going around that Tom Clancy was killed by That Guy (aka The Imperial President, The Black Napoleon, The Light of the West, Big Brother's Keeper, The Terror of the WASP, Waspbane, The Necromancer, etc.)

*drinks the entire bottle*

Better not look in the china knife thread. Squellus is especially fruity there.

[PDH]

Better not look in the china knife thread. Squellus is especially fruity there.

Oh God.  MAH LIVER(AL)!

[Queequeg]

The Invasion Of Crimea Is Russia's Worst Foreign Policy Blunder In A Generation

I agree.

Only if Russia loses.

An Israeli fails to understand the negative diplomatic and economic consequences of annexing a small scrap of land from a neighboring country.  Somehow unsurprising. 

[Admiral Yi]

Only if Russia loses.

I don't think it's a win for Russia if they end up with de facto control of the Crimea, not recognized by anyone except Belarus, permanent armed confrontation with Ukraine and possibly Europe and the US, and pariah status internationally.

[alfred russel]

Only if Russia loses.

I don't think it's a win for Russia if they end up with de facto control of the Crimea, not recognized by anyone except Belarus, permanent armed confrontation with Ukraine and possibly Europe and the US, and pariah status internationally.

Do you really think this stops at the Crimea? It seems like we are a possible pretext and short time away from discussing eastern ukraine instead.

[Admiral Yi]

Do you really think this stops at the Crimea? It seems like we are a possible pretext and short time away from discussing eastern ukraine instead.

It could very well go beyond the Crimea.  Does that make it a win for Russia?

[LaCroix]

I don't think it's a win for Russia if they end up with de facto control of the Crimea, not recognized by anyone except Belarus, permanent armed confrontation with Ukraine and possibly Europe and the US, and pariah status internationally.

agreed. this isn't worth it to russia at all. they're set to lose ukraine permanently at this point

[Siege]

Well, you have to understand Putin's thought process.
Just like Hitler, he thinks we are all pussy liberals without the balls to confront him, and not willing to risk a war.

He thinks he can really get away with this, otherwise I doubt he would have started it.
Or was Putin under pressure to intervene? From whom?

[derspiess]

Poland reportedly moving troops to the Ukraine border.

[The Brain]

Poland reportedly moving troops to the Ukraine border.

Let's hope they don't face tanks.

[Bluebook]

so why is Putin moving troops in? Is it really just to slap the West in the face? To do something aggressive and outlandish even though he probably could and would have gotten Crimea by default anyway? If that's the case it makes it even more humiliating we refuse to call him on it, because it means the entire activity was basically done to test and prove Western weakness.

Personally I think this is an advanced smoke and mirrors-act to have the russian population forget what actually happened in Kiev and instead look at the fancy fireworks in Crimea. I think Putins greatest fear is to suddenly have his own population try a "russian spring"

[LaCroix]

Poland reportedly moving troops to the Ukraine border.

nm, comparisons to czechoslovakia are apt 

[Siege]

What the fuck is Lacroix doing in this thread?

[LaCroix]

What the fuck is Lacroix doing in this thread?