Ukraine's European Revolution?

[OttoVonBismarck]

That's just the way Otto is.  he cannot imagine anyone disagreeing with him unless they are somehow mentally defective, and he expects you to burst into tears when he changes one of the syllables in your user name to "fag."  You have to either try to think like a fourth-grader and respond to his stuff in the same emotional vein in which he posts, or just laugh and point.  There's no sense even trying to pretend you can engage him intellectually.  Sounds like you are going for option 2.  Good.  That's where the smart money goes.

LaCroix you have a lot to learn from this man.

[Viking]

Western left-wingers siding with Russia? What else is new?

Not so much with Russia, but rather AGAINST whatever the USA might choose to do. They are reticent to commit because as long as Russia is the only aggressor they can't be seen to oppose the poor defenseless protesters in the street. Never mind, just like in Iraq, Serbia and other places, they will react viscerally to the evil USAian imperialism once/if Kiev requests assistance.

[Neil]

The cover of the Sun is a picture of shirtless Putin with the caption 'Come 'n have a go if EU think you're hard enough'.

lol

[OttoVonBismarck]

Some of the leftist boards I've trolled on in the past are hilarious with this situation because even though many of them are too young to have the weird communist love that lefties used to have for the USSR they almost by instinct start dredging up U.S. "cold war wrongs" and activities post-WWI by the West that in their minds fully justify everything Russia did from 1918-Today. But they're also big Obama fans so if he actually has an open clash with Putin it will be interesting to see what happens with them.

[Neil]

Western left-wingers siding with Russia? What else is new?

Not so much with Russia, but rather AGAINST whatever the USA might choose to do. They are reticent to commit because as long as Russia is the only aggressor they can't be seen to oppose the poor defenseless protesters in the street. Never mind, just like in Iraq, Serbia and other places, they will react viscerally to the evil USAian imperialism once/if Kiev requests assistance.

It's just funny because traditionally self-hating imbeciles have fallen into the orbit of Moscow and have pretty much sided with Russia in all matters.  The Cold War, World War 2, all sorts of fun.

[LaCroix]

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also, here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXMqxuccaHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpI32Bline4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Zw7k28rt8

[PDH]

LaCroix you have a lot to learn from this man.

God bless you, OvB

[Sheilbh]

The cover of the Sun is a picture of shirtless Putin with the caption 'Come 'n have a go if EU think you're hard enough'.

lol

[OttoVonBismarck]

It's just funny because traditionally self-hating imbeciles have fallen into the orbit of Moscow and have pretty much sided with Russia in all matters.  The Cold War, World War 2, all sorts of fun.

Yeah, there's a gaming/techie forum I frequent whose posters are all fairly leftist and mostly 10-20 years younger than me on average and mostly wouldn't have been exposed to much of the Cold War but seem to have just gravitated toward Russia in this thing.

[Sheilbh]

It's just funny because traditionally self-hating imbeciles have fallen into the orbit of Moscow and have pretty much sided with Russia in all matters.  The Cold War, World War 2, all sorts of fun.

Yeah, there's a gaming/techie forum I frequent whose posters are all fairly leftist and mostly 10-20 years younger than me on average and mostly wouldn't have been exposed to much of the Cold War but seem to have just gravitated toward Russia in this thing.

See Glenn Greenwald too.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald
Useful idiots, at best.

[Queequeg]

Some of the leftist boards I've trolled on in the past are hilarious with this situation because even though many of them are too young to have the weird communist love that lefties used to have for the USSR they almost by instinct start dredging up U.S. "cold war wrongs" and activities post-WWI by the West that in their minds fully justify everything Russia did from 1918-Today. But they're also big Obama fans so if he actually has an open clash with Putin it will be interesting to see what happens with them.

Yes, that'll be an interesting couple of hours until the missiles land.

[Viking]

It's just funny because traditionally self-hating imbeciles have fallen into the orbit of Moscow and have pretty much sided with Russia in all matters.  The Cold War, World War 2, all sorts of fun.

Yeah, there's a gaming/techie forum I frequent whose posters are all fairly leftist and mostly 10-20 years younger than me on average and mostly wouldn't have been exposed to much of the Cold War but seem to have just gravitated toward Russia in this thing.

See Glenn Greenwald too.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald
Useful idiots, at best.

Is that Stephen Walt of Mearsheimer and Walt blaming the US for supporting Ukrainian democracy?

Stephen Walt ‏@StephenWalt  Mar 1
Amazing thing re #Ukraine: US & EU colluded to help oust corrupt but pro-Russ leader, yet expected Moscow to do nothing about it.

[Sheilbh]

Is that Stephen Walt of Mearsheimer and Walt blaming the US for supporting Ukrainian democracy?

Stephen Walt ‏@StephenWalt  Mar 1
Amazing thing re #Ukraine: US & EU colluded to help oust corrupt but pro-Russ leader, yet expected Moscow to do nothing about it.

I think Mearsheimer was rather prescient:
http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/A0020.pdf

I think Walt's tweets are fine in general.
https://twitter.com/StephenWalt
For example immediately before the one you quoted was this:
'Stephen Walt ‏@StephenWalt  Mar 1
Re #Ukraine I am beginning to think no one in White House ever thinks two moves ahead. #FallacyofLastMove'
I think together that's a very fair point.

[Queequeg]

See Glenn Greenwald too.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald
Useful idiots, at best.

CUNT!

[Grey Fox]

See Glenn Greenwald too.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald
Useful idiots, at best.

CUNT!

Can you elaborate?