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Ukraine's European Revolution?

Started by Sheilbh, December 03, 2013, 07:39:37 AM

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alfred russel

Quote from: jimmy olsen on February 23, 2014, 09:48:47 PM
Holy shit! There's something not quite right with this guy :wacko:

Found on the border of the Prez's estate. I guess to warn birds away from the garden.


That is hilarious. It is an avian Calvary.  :lol:
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-garbon, February 23, 2014

alfred russel

Quote from: Razgovory on February 23, 2014, 05:06:33 PM

She's just in shock over Putin grabbing her tit.

You can tell she is wet in that picture.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

There's a fine line between salvation and drinking poison in the jungle.

I'm embarrassed. I've been making the mistake of associating with you. It won't happen again. :)
-garbon, February 23, 2014

Ed Anger

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DGuller

Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2014, 04:09:03 PM
I've read a few people suggesting Tymoshenko may end up as a compromise candidate. Putin likes her and apparently she's acceptable in most of the country.
The story I heard retold by my dad is that she overplayed her hand on her return speech, and shortly after was told by the protesters to fuck off.  I would take that with the grain of salt, though.

Queequeg

The woman is a kleptocrat and one of the great shining examples of the Iron Law of Oligarchy. 
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Queequeg on February 24, 2014, 01:14:29 AM
The woman is a kleptocrat and one of the great shining examples of the Iron Law of Oligarchy.
Which is?
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Grinning_Colossus

It was a theory proposed by a German socialist that states that democracy will always degenerate into oligarchy. The dude put his money where his mouth was and joined the Italian Fascist Party.
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Queequeg

Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on February 24, 2014, 03:34:54 AM
It was a theory proposed by a German socialist that states that democracy will always degenerate into oligarchy. The dude put his money where his mouth was and joined the Italian Fascist Party.
It's an extremely influential theory that is a close to perfect model of what happens to a great majority of attempts at democracy. And Michels was originally an Anarcho-Syndicalist.
Quote from: PDH on April 25, 2009, 05:58:55 PM
"Dysthymia?  Did they get some student from the University of Chicago with a hard-on for ancient Bactrian cities to name this?  I feel cheated."

Capetan Mihali

I was just reading about Robert(o) Michels...  :hmm:
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Ed Anger

Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 24, 2014, 08:53:31 AM
I was just reading about Robert(o) Michels...  :hmm:

He also founded the Michaels Arts and crafts chain.
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Capetan Mihali

Quote from: Ed Anger on February 24, 2014, 08:56:10 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 24, 2014, 08:53:31 AM
I was just reading about Robert(o) Michels...  :hmm:

He also founded the Michaels Arts and crafts chain.

:lol: America's anarcho-syndicalist plastic flowers and macrame depot.
"The internet's completely over. [...] The internet's like MTV. At one time MTV was hip and suddenly it became outdated. Anyway, all these computers and digital gadgets are no good. They just fill your head with numbers and that can't be good for you."
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Tamas

Tens of thousands protested in Sevastopol with Russian flags. They have deposed the mayor and "elected" a new Russian one, and asked Putin to protect them.

Syt

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/25/world/europe/kremlin-says-ukrainian-instability-threatens-russian-interests.html

QuoteKremlin Says Ukrainian Instability Threatens Russian Interests

MOSCOW — Russia's prime minister, Dmitri A. Medvedev, questioned the legitimacy of the new government in Ukraine on Monday, signaling that the Kremlin could react strongly in response to the tumult there. He suggested that economic agreements could be renegotiated, and declared that instability in Ukraine was "a real threat to our interests and to our citizens' lives and health."

Russia's leadership has made its anger over the popular uprising in Ukraine clear from the beginning, but Mr. Medvedev's remarks were the most extensive Russian reaction since Ukraine's president, Viktor F. Yanukovych, fled Kiev on Saturday after signing an agreement brokered by the European Union to end a convulsion of violence last week.

"Strictly speaking, today there is no one to talk to there," Mr. Medvedev said in remarks reported by the Interfax news agency. "The legitimacy of a whole host of government bodies is raising huge doubts."

His remarks came a day after Russia recalled its ambassador to Ukraine for consultations and Moscow made clear that it was not yet prepared to recognize the new government that moved swiftly to establish its authority and on Monday issued a warrant for Mr. Yanukovych's arrest. "If people crossing Kiev in black masks and Kalishnikov rifles are considered a government," Mr. Medvedev said, "it will be difficult for us to work with such a government."
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Admiral Yi

Quote from: Queequeg on February 24, 2014, 08:51:18 AM
It's an extremely influential theory that is a close to perfect model of what happens to a great majority of attempts at democracy. And Michels was originally an Anarcho-Syndicalist.

When I see the phrase "influential theory" I run for the hills.  It's not a popularity contest.  Either the theory is right or it's not.

jimmy olsen

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 24, 2014, 09:35:50 AM
Quote from: Queequeg on February 24, 2014, 08:51:18 AM
It's an extremely influential theory that is a close to perfect model of what happens to a great majority of attempts at democracy. And Michels was originally an Anarcho-Syndicalist.

When I see the phrase "influential theory" I run for the hills.  It's not a popularity contest.  Either the theory is right or it's not.
A theory can be influential even if it's wrong. For example, Marxist theory has proven highly influential.
It is far better for the truth to tear my flesh to pieces, then for my soul to wander through darkness in eternal damnation.

Jet: So what kind of woman is she? What's Julia like?
Faye: Ordinary. The kind of beautiful, dangerous ordinary that you just can't leave alone.
Jet: I see.
Faye: Like an angel from the underworld. Or a devil from Paradise.
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