Obamacare and you

[sbr]

I had an idea before was an idiot, nice to see it confirmed.

[Eddie Teach]

I had an idea before was an idiot, nice to see it confirmed.

I'm not real sure the extent to which he's trolling. I'm not sure he knows either. 

[11B4V]

I had an idea before was an idiot, nice to see it confirmed.

Prove your statement then. Dont talk shit. Prove it.

[11B4V]

I had an idea before was an idiot, nice to see it confirmed.

I'm not real sure the extent to which he's trolling. I'm not sure he knows either. 

Someone explain in the extreme case of 650/mo vs. 42/mo and how it benefits GF. I'll even let you close the gap and add what I pay for dental which is 118/mo to my total.

How is this good for a up and coming lower middle class family for example.

No trolling here. The numbers a'int adding up to me.

[Eddie Teach]

Someone explain in the extreme case of 650/mo vs. 42/mo and how it benefits GF. I'll even let you close the gap and add what I pay for dental which is 118/mo to my total.

How is this good for a up and coming lower middle class family for example.

No trolling here. The numbers a'int adding up to me.

GF benefits by living in Quebec and not having to pay 650/month. You benefit by having a job that pays most of your health care. The guy in Vermont who doesn't have a job like that is the one who's screwed.

Companies who cut benefits due to Obamacare will have the same drawbacks as companies who cut pay- some of their employees will find work elsewhere.

[11B4V]

Someone explain in the extreme case of 650/mo vs. 42/mo and how it benefits GF. I'll even let you close the gap and add what I pay for dental which is 118/mo to my total.

How is this good for a up and coming lower middle class family for example.

No trolling here. The numbers a'int adding up to me.

GF benefits by living in Quebec and not having to pay 650/month. You benefit by having a job that pays most of your health care. The guy in Vermont who doesn't have a job like that is the one who's screwed.

Companies who cut benefits due to Obamacare will have the same drawbacks as companies who cut pay- some of their employees will find work elsewhere.

Sorry didn't know GF was Canadian. But your statement on Vermont guy is what concerns me.

[grumbler]

All you 'tards are so predictable.

As well as you flip floppers.

  I hope that irony was intended.

[Grey Fox]

@11B Liberaltards think individual mandate healthcare system are insane but the US Liberaltards take what they can.

I'd probably qualify for some tax credits but there is no way to know since to find that out I have to filled a real application & I think they'll know I'm not an American.

To be fair the system also said that I could qualify for medicaid.

To me the difference between me paying an hypothetical 650/mo and your 42/mo is that before I couldn't get insurance because of pre-existing conditions or other such nonsense. Yeah, it's expensive but so is getting cancer care.

I have a 11 weeks old at home, what if he has type 1 diabetes? No insurance for him his entire life?

[grumbler]

Sorry didn't know GF was Canadian. But your statement on Vermont guy is what concerns me.

I don't understand how a Canadian is the same as a guy from Vermont.  B4tard math doesn't add up for me.

[sbr]

I had an idea before was an idiot, nice to see it confirmed.

Prove your statement then. Dont talk shit. Prove it.

No need to prove it myself, you are doing a fine job yourself.

[merithyn]

To spell it out a bit more (though I think Yi already mentioned this), the Vermont guy will have to pay $650/month out of pocket for his insurance because his employer isn't paying anything for his. The assumption is that his job will also pay him more in salary to make up for not offering insurance, so that they will entice good employees from other companies who do offer paid health insurance.

You, B4, are paying $40/month out of pocket. (And so we're clear, that's $20/paycheck? Or is it $40/paycheck? A lot of people get that confused.) However, a part of your monthly pay goes toward covering the rest of your insurance.

So, what your company pays for insurance is considered part of your salary. You may not be paying for it from your checking account, but you are paying for it from your wages. That has to be factored into it in order to compare apples to apples.

[OttoVonBismarck]

I thought Vermont was one of the States that had instituted state level single payer?

[Grey Fox]

I thought Vermont was one of the States that had instituted state level single payer?

They voted it in, yes. It hasn't been fully implemented yet, Obamacare is part of the process.

I found Vermont's subsidy calculator : http://info.healthconnect.vermont.gov/tax_credit_calculator

It takes my previous 650$/mo and takes it down to 215$/mo for a silverplan.

I'm sorry if I cause un necessary trolling, this is confusing to get acquainted with. I've never had an interest into that crazyness before.

[11B4V]

To spell it out a bit more (though I think Yi already mentioned this), the Vermont guy will have to pay $650/month out of pocket for his insurance because his employer isn't paying anything for his. The assumption is that his job will also pay him more in salary to make up for not offering insurance, so that they will entice good employees from other companies who do offer paid health insurance.

You, B4, are paying $40/month out of pocket. (And so we're clear, that's $20/paycheck? Or is it $40/paycheck? A lot of people get that confused.) However, a part of your monthly pay goes toward covering the rest of your insurance.

So, what your company pays for insurance is considered part of your salary. You may not be paying for it from your checking account, but you are paying for it from your wages. That has to be factored into it in order to compare apples to apples.

Thank you

[11B4V]

Sorry didn't know GF was Canadian. But your statement on Vermont guy is what concerns me.

I don't understand how a Canadian is the same as a guy from Vermont.  B4tard math doesn't add up for me.

Are you senile?