Pastor has sex with teens to cure them of homosexuality

[Barrister]

From the story in the opening post, I'm not sure that there was actual penetration.  I kind of got the impression that it was mutual masturbation.  I'm not sure it makes any difference.  Actually, I don't really think it does morally or ethically.  It might legally.

There are multiple news stories that say that Girouex admitted to having had sex with the boys. I took that to mean penetration.

I gotta go with dps here, I got the impression that it was either mutual masturbation/circle jerks or communal masturbation (no touching just jerking off while being next to each other). With his admission of sex I took that to mean the circle jerk, not anal penetration.

Though, I must say, I have no fucking clue what these overlapping, unclear and diffuse euphemisms for inappropriate conduct are supposed to mean. Because, to be honest I need some means of calibrating my outrage. Cause the communal masturbation is merely inappropriate and wierd, the mutual masturbation is bad enough, but anal rape would get me hoping there was a hell for this fucker to go to. The sentence suggests rape, the coverage suggests fondling and the leniency suggests merely exposing himself while masturbating himself.

It does not (or should not) make any difference if there was anal penetration or not.

[Viking]

It does not (or should not) make any difference if there was anal penetration or not.

It does.

[The Brain]

Physical trauma and disease risk mean nothing to Machiavellian law.

[Viking]

Physical trauma and disease risk mean nothing to Machiavellian law.

Of course they do, traumatized and diseased peasants pay no taxes.

[Barrister]

It does not (or should not) make any difference if there was anal penetration or not.

It does.

I feel safe saying that under Canadian law, someone who molests boys by "mutual masturbation", and someone who molests boy by anal penetration, is going to be treated the same way.

So why exactly are you saying it makes a difference?

[Viking]

It does not (or should not) make any difference if there was anal penetration or not.

It does.

I feel safe saying that under Canadian law, someone who molests boys by "mutual masturbation", and someone who molests boy by anal penetration, is going to be treated the same way.

So why exactly are you saying it makes a difference?

I just looked up the canadian law in question, am I correct in understanding in that under canadian law Rape is not a separate crime and sexual contact with penetration is treated no differently than sexual contact without penetration and the only aggrivating circumstances (within that statute) are threats of violence and use of violence?

Why am I saying it makes a difference? Because I don't live under canadian law, which is stupid on this point. I live in a country where groping a sleeping woman and fucking a sleeping woman are punished differently.

[Admiral Yi]

I'm with Puff on this one.  Nobody ever talks about getting traumatized by prison cell circle jerks.

[Malthus]

I'm with Puff on this one.  Nobody ever talks about getting traumatized by prison cell circle jerks.

This is a usual topic of conversation? 

[merithyn]

I'm with Puff on this one.  Nobody ever talks about getting traumatized by prison cell circle jerks.

We're talking about kids here.

[Admiral Yi]

This is a usual topic of conversation? 

Becoming Bubba's prison bitch sure is.  The fact that becoming Bubba's erotic massage partner is not is telling.

[merithyn]

This is a usual topic of conversation? 

Becoming Bubba's prison bitch sure is.  The fact that becoming Bubba's erotic massage partner is not is telling.

Since there's little reason for Bubba to stop at petting in prison, we may never know if a circle jerk would be just as traumatizing.

[Admiral Yi]

We're talking about kids here.

Reinforces my/Puff's point.  Kids have tighter bung holes-->proportionally more trauma.

[insert joke about Yi's knowledge of prepubescent bung holes]

[merithyn]

We're talking about kids here.

Reinforces my/Puff's point.  Kids have tighter bung holes-->proportionally more trauma.

[insert joke about Yi's knowledge of prepubescent bung holes]

I think that you're focusing too much on the physical trauma, maybe. The trauma comes as much from the absolute lack of control as it does from the physical trauma. Yes, there's a physical component that has to be overcome, but the mental and emotional trama can be just as bad, and it doesn't have to come from being physically harmed.

[Maximus]

Reinforces my/Puff's point.  Kids have tighter bung holes-->proportionally more trauma.

[insert joke about Yi's knowledge of prepubescent bung holes]

If I understand correctly, lasting physical damage would be considered an aggravating factor under Canadian law (as it should be IMO) but physical damage is not the main reason society considers sexual assault bad.

[Admiral Yi]

Meri: Sure.  And I promise you that if you ran a poll asking the straight males on Languish if they were forced to choose between a circle jerk and getting fucked in the ass, every single one would choose the circle jerk.