Pastor has sex with teens to cure them of homosexuality

[merithyn]

Meri: Sure.  And I promise you that if you ran a poll asking the straight males on Languish if they were forced to choose between a circle jerk and getting fucked in the ass, every single one would choose the circle jerk.

The problem is the word "choice".

[The Brain]

Meri: Sure.  And I promise you that if you ran a poll asking the straight males on Languish if they were forced to choose between a circle jerk and getting fucked in the ass, every single one would choose the circle jerk.

The problem is the word "choice".

It means main dish?

[Admiral Yi]

The problem is the word "choice".

No it's not.  We're comparing two guys stroking each others' weenies with one guy assfucking the other.  Choice is a constant.

[merithyn]

The problem is the word "choice".

No it's not.  We're comparing two guys stroking each others' weenies with one guy assfucking the other.  Choice is a constant.

Okay, but that doesn't mean that one is rape and the other isn't. For instance, I could be raped vaginally or anally. One is, in my opinion, far worse than the other and will cause more damage physically, but both are rape. The same for being forced to give a blowjob.

All of those are sex acts against my will. Sure, I'd much prefer one over another, but it doesn't change the fact that all of them are rape.

[The Brain]

It would probably help if you guys discussed the same thing.

[Viking]

The problem is the word "choice".

No it's not.  We're comparing two guys stroking each others' weenies with one guy assfucking the other.  Choice is a constant.

Okay, but that doesn't mean that one is rape and the other isn't. For instance, I could be raped vaginally or anally. One is, in my opinion, far worse than the other and will cause more damage physically, but both are rape. The same for being forced to give a blowjob.

All of those are sex acts against my will. Sure, I'd much prefer one over another, but it doesn't change the fact that all of them are rape.

You have to understand that a better analogy is not front or back rape or forced analsex. If you want a proper analogy for women (or if it makes no sense to you just remember that your analogy makes no sense to us) then emotionally it is a choice between being fingered and given a hysterectomy.

[garbon]

The problem is the word "choice".

No it's not.  We're comparing two guys stroking each others' weenies with one guy assfucking the other.  Choice is a constant.

Okay, but that doesn't mean that one is rape and the other isn't. For instance, I could be raped vaginally or anally. One is, in my opinion, far worse than the other and will cause more damage physically, but both are rape. The same for being forced to give a blowjob.

All of those are sex acts against my will. Sure, I'd much prefer one over another, but it doesn't change the fact that all of them are rape.

You have to understand that a better analogy is not front or back rape or forced analsex. If you want a proper analogy for women (or if it makes no sense to you just remember that your analogy makes no sense to us) then emotionally it is a choice between being fingered and given a hysterectomy.

WTF?

[Admiral Yi]

Linesman pulled the switch and Puff and I are no longer riding the same track.

[Barrister]

Sexual assaults are not considered horrific because of the physical damage involved.  It's the mental anguish.  In that, being forced to participate in a circle jerk is bad - perhaps even worse since you're being forced to actively participate.

An unwanted grope of the ass or a sqeeze of a tit, while illegal, are treated with much less severity.

[Maximus]

Linesman pulled the switch and Puff and I are no longer riding the same track.

I'm guessing it was an attempt at an emasculation analogy, which I think fails for a number of reasons.

[merithyn]

You have to understand that a better analogy is not front or back rape or forced analsex. If you want a proper analogy for women (or if it makes no sense to you just remember that your analogy makes no sense to us) then emotionally it is a choice between being fingered and given a hysterectomy.

No.. no it's not.

Even if you went with the idea of a woman being groped while a man ejaculated, that's still pretty damn traumatizing when it's done against her will.

[Ideologue]

The problem is the word "choice".

No it's not.  We're comparing two guys stroking each others' weenies with one guy assfucking the other.  Choice is a constant.

Okay, but that doesn't mean that one is rape and the other isn't. For instance, I could be raped vaginally or anally. One is, in my opinion, far worse than the other and will cause more damage physically, but both are rape. The same for being forced to give a blowjob.

All of those are sex acts against my will. Sure, I'd much prefer one over another, but it doesn't change the fact that all of them are rape.

This is tangential, but I would assume vaginal rape is worse, due to the prospect of a resulting pregnancy.

Also: Martinus may be gone, but his spirit of terrible, terrible analogies lives on in Viking.

[Capetan Mihali]

Two points:

1) A suspended sentence is not an imaginary sentence.  Incarceration for a portion or the entirety of suspended sentences are routinely imposed on people for violating conditions of probation, which are often quite extensive/restrictive and can last for years and years.  Having serious prison time hanging over your head is quite different than a straight probationary sentence.

2) Most American states do make a distinction between penetrative and non-penetrative sexual assault, or something along those lines.  In Vermont, for instance, the sexual assault statute includes this definition: A "sexual act" means conduct between persons consisting of contact between the penis and the vulva, the penis and the anus, the mouth and the penis, the mouth and the vulva, or any intrusion, however slight, by any part of a person's body or any object into the genital or anal opening of another.  Otherwise, the charge would be Lewd and Lascivious Behavior (with a Child).  Or "L'n'L" as it's known in the biz.

[Razgovory]

So were the boys cured?

[Ideologue]

Two points:

1) A suspended sentence is not an imaginary sentence.  Incarceration for a portion or the entirety of suspended sentences are routinely imposed on people for violating conditions of probation, which are often quite extensive/restrictive and can last for years and years.  Having serious prison time hanging over your head is quite different than a straight probationary sentence.

Yeah.  Good luck with that.  I think I said that about fifty fucking times in the Montana case thread.  People don't understand what they don't want to understand--no matter how simple it is.