Arab Spring, Round 2

[Razgovory]

"He went to Egypt because he cared profoundly about the Middle East, and he planned to live and work there in the pursuit of peace and understanding."

He is not the first and will not be the last person killed in the Middle East in that pursuit.

You have to be one courageous person to spend any time in Egypt these days as a foreigner.

He was a lefty and an Obamazombie, trying to prove how wrong those evil republicans are.

He was a Jew.

[Siege]

“He went to Egypt because he cared profoundly about the Middle East, and he planned to live and work there in the pursuit of peace and understanding.”

He is not the first and will not be the last person killed in the Middle East in that pursuit.

You have to be one courageous person to spend any time in Egypt these days as a foreigner.

He was a lefty and an Obamazombie, trying to prove how wrong those evil republicans are.

He was a Jew.

American Jew.

And?

[Tonitrus]

Doesn't that quality as a coup? 

I guess that kind of "soft" coup is at least progress...

[Siege]

Raz, you should know by now that I don't play the race card.

Unless I can shamessly use it for my own benefit.

[Razgovory]

Che Guevera posters were a hint.

When you say "they" (the protesters) are anti-corporate, do you mean at least one is, a majority is, a signficant minority is, or what?

If there's one pattern to your argumentation I would change if given God-like powers, it would be this tendency to generalize from anecdotal data points.  I.e. one Republican in Oklahoma says Muslims should be expelled from the US, you report it as "Republicans want to expel Muslims citizens." (This is a hypothetical Raz.)

It's a relatively effective tactic when trading bumper sticker political slogans, when the objective is to defame your opponent and accuracy is a secondary consideration, but it's not helpful in the context of an open exchange of viewpoints of people trying to come to an understanding of a question like what do these protesters actually want.

Man I'm going nuts these days with the complex sentence structures.

I was basing my impression on several things.  The whole "occupy Taksim", the use of communist iconography, the fact they many are rallying around the old socialist party banner, etc.  Are all of them against that, no, but it's at least a significant minority.

[Razgovory]

"He went to Egypt because he cared profoundly about the Middle East, and he planned to live and work there in the pursuit of peace and understanding."

He is not the first and will not be the last person killed in the Middle East in that pursuit.

You have to be one courageous person to spend any time in Egypt these days as a foreigner.

He was a lefty and an Obamazombie, trying to prove how wrong those evil republicans are.

He was a Jew.

American Jew.

And?

There aren't enough of you guys around to start throwing under the bus because your conservative friends say so.

[Siege]

“He went to Egypt because he cared profoundly about the Middle East, and he planned to live and work there in the pursuit of peace and understanding.”

He is not the first and will not be the last person killed in the Middle East in that pursuit.

You have to be one courageous person to spend any time in Egypt these days as a foreigner.

He was a lefty and an Obamazombie, trying to prove how wrong those evil republicans are.

He was a Jew.

American Jew.

And?

There aren't enough of you guys around to start throwing under the bus because your conservative friends say so.

So, you think I am incapable of independent thought and I only repeat what Mark Levin tells me to say?

[DGuller]

So, you think I am incapable of independent thought and I only repeat what Mark Levin tells me to say?

I personally don't think that you're incapable of independent thought.  I do think, however, that you're incapable of lucid independent thought.

[Savonarola]

Doesn't that quality as a coup? 

I guess that kind of "soft" coup is at least progress...

Turkey had a couple coups like that; the Coup by Memorandum (1971) and the Postmodern Coup (1997.)  The former resulted in a couple years of military rule.

It's tempting to see parallels between this and some of the Turkish Coups.  In Turkey they usually happened when political violence was rampant and the economy was in decline like Egypt today.

[Ed Anger]

Coup by Memorandum

HR are bastards.

[garbon]

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Draft-Egypt-army-road-map-to-change-constitution-318457

Egypt's armed forces would suspend the constitution and dissolve an Islamist-dominated parliament under a draft political roadmap to be pursued if Islamist President Mohamed Morsi and the liberal opposition fail to agree by Wednesday, military sources said.

The sources told Reuters the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) was still discussing details and the plan, intended to resolve a political crisis that has brought millions of protesters into the streets, could be changed based on political developments and consultations.

Chief-of-staff General Abdel Fattah El-Sisi called in a statement on Monday for Mursi to agree within 48 hours on power-sharing with other political forces, saying the military would otherwise set out its own road-map for the country's future.

[CountDeMoney]

Coup by Memorandum

HR USAF are bastards.

[Ed Anger]

I didn't know you could launch a coup by e-mail.

[email protected]

[Viking]

A fine use of a billion dollars ever year. Might as well burn it and save everybody the trouble.

I agree a fine use. Had the US not spent those billions the Egyptian Army would not remain loyal to Washington.

[citizen k]