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Started by Razgovory, May 18, 2012, 03:21:13 PM

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sbr

At least you didn't fold to the chiropractic scam. :yes:

grumbler

Quote from: sbr on June 02, 2012, 01:48:06 AM
At least you didn't fold to the chiropractic scam. :yes:

I did that when I had severe back pain about ten years ago.

Thank god I did.  Ten treatments later, I was done and never had the problem recur.  It's not as dramatic as the kidney transplant scam, or the LASIC scam, but it is as good, if you have the right chiropractor and the right problem.

For lower back muscle problems, something like http://www.amazon.com/Zewa-Body-Relax-Relief-System/dp/B002L6LXQG/ref=pd_bxgy_hpc_text_b works pretty well.
The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.   -G'Kar

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Queequeg

How would the testicles be effected by back pain?   :hmm:
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Perhaps Raz has such large testicles that his back is straining to support their weight?
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Quote from: Queequeg on June 03, 2012, 06:30:33 PM
How would the testicles be effected by back pain?   :hmm:
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Quote from: Queequeg on June 03, 2012, 06:30:33 PM
How would the testicles be effected by back pain?   :hmm:

Same reason back problems can cause pain in the legs.  The nerves that terminate in the nuts get pinched.

Jaron

The question is then: Who pinches Raz's nuts?
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Razgovory

Quote from: Jaron on June 03, 2012, 08:38:06 PM
The question is then: Who pinches Raz's nuts?

Dobermans.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

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Razgovory

I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

OttoVonBismarck

Quote from: grumbler on June 03, 2012, 04:57:59 PM
I did that when I had severe back pain about ten years ago.

Thank god I did.  Ten treatments later, I was done and never had the problem recur.  It's not as dramatic as the kidney transplant scam, or the LASIC scam, but it is as good, if you have the right chiropractor and the right problem.

For lower back muscle problems, something like http://www.amazon.com/Zewa-Body-Relax-Relief-System/dp/B002L6LXQG/ref=pd_bxgy_hpc_text_b works pretty well.

I have really mixed feelings on chiropractors. I mean on one hand if you actually read about them, there are some serious scam warning bells and some really dicey stuff that goes on. For example when my wife was in medical school two guys were forced out due to failing too many courses, both became chiropractors. That's apparently a somewhat common source of practitioners of chiropractic. (Now, FWIW, because medical school is so difficult to get into even the rare guys who flunk out aren't idiots, they probably had 3.5-4.0 GPAs and strong general academic performance to get in, and would have had to pass fairly difficult biology and chemistry courses as an undergrad.)

The problem I think a lot of people have with chiropractors is historically they were strong advocates of "manual manipulation" as a "holistic health treatment." Basically they believed that by subjecting a patient to manual manipulation it could fix a wide variety of ills, not just stuff relating to the musculoskeletal system. That aspect of it is pretty much baseless woo, and unfortunately some chiropractors still practice in this trade. Even worse, some of the ones who do this stuff do really risky "manipulations" to the neck and other areas and have actually inadvertently fractured people's necks and etc.

On the other hand, over the past 30 years chiropractors as a field have moved away from that by and large. Many of them are more about specifically treating musculoskeletal problems and some specializing in sort of helping coordinate general physical therapy and etc in conjunction with what they do themselves to get you back in shape. Apparently that part of it is genuinely respected and accepted as legitimate by "real" doctors.

Just as a side point, while my wife is an MD, a lot of people she works with (including several surgeons) are DOs. The only real difference between the two medical schools (DOs for anyone who doesn't know are fully licensed physicians who can become surgeons or any other type of specialist physician you can imagine, with all the same authority and licensure) is DO schools still teach manual manipulation--because they got their start at the end of the 19th century by a guy who practice manual manipulation as a "holistic healthcare" system. DOs have long gotten rid of that woo part of it, but they still learn a lot of chiropractic techniques and generally stand by their effectiveness.

garbon

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I guess term "cabana boy" has gone out of vogue.

Isnt that Teh Gay version of mexican house boy? :hmm:

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Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on June 04, 2012, 09:44:58 AMJust as a side point, while my wife is an MD, a lot of people she works with (including several surgeons) are DOs. The only real difference between the two medical schools (DOs for anyone who doesn't know are fully licensed physicians who can become surgeons or any other type of specialist physician you can imagine, with all the same authority and licensure) is DO schools still teach manual manipulation--because they got their start at the end of the 19th century by a guy who practice manual manipulation as a "holistic healthcare" system. DOs have long gotten rid of that woo part of it, but they still learn a lot of chiropractic techniques and generally stand by their effectiveness.

DO's do offer a refreshing alternative to the current "script first, ask questions later" methodology of a lot of today's medical schools.  The DOs I've met have been pretty down to earth, too.

In Raz's case, he really needs to find somebody that can identify and adjust his soft tissue issues, whether it's a chiro or a frigging good masseuse, because pain killers aren't going to be solving anything.