Wall Street protesters: We're in for the long haul

[garbon]

So now the police raided both Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Oakland. I wonder where the protests will go from here...

Someday perhaps democracy will come to the USA. Just not yet. 

I hope that we're never in a place where democracy = shantytowns.

Then don't vote Republican.

Voting Republican seems like it would only encourage these individuals...

[Darth Wagtaros]

So now the police raided both Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Oakland. I wonder where the protests will go from here...

Someday perhaps democracy will come to the USA. Just not yet. 

I think the initial hugs and puppies version of the movement has been replaced by the drug den/wastrel component of society in the hoovervilles themselves.

[Josephus]

So now the police raided both Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Oakland. I wonder where the protests will go from here...

Someday perhaps democracy will come to the USA. Just not yet. 

I think the initial hugs and puppies version of the movement has been replaced by the drug den/wastrel component of society in the hoovervilles themselves.

maybe. So arrest those using drugs.
Apart from restricting peoples' right to peaceful and lawful assembly, it's the way it was done.  One in the morning.  Media blocked off. Police helicopters and according to something I've read it was organized by Homeland Security....like these were Al Qaeda terrorists. It was vaguely reminiscent of Brezhenev era Soviet Union.

[Darth Wagtaros]

How is preventing people from living in public areas restricting right to peaceful and lawful assembly? How was it either?  Putting a tent in a park is restricting the park's use by anybody else who just wants to go for a walk.

[Ideologue]

So now the police raided both Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Oakland. I wonder where the protests will go from here...

Someday perhaps democracy will come to the USA. Just not yet. 

I hope that we're never in a place where democracy = shantytowns.

Then don't vote Republican.

Voting Republican seems like it would only encourage these individuals...

I'd call reducing the U.S. to a third world hellhole "encouragement," sure.

[The Minsky Moment]

Bloomberg is sending in the NYPD Winged Hussars.

[grumbler]

Also, Grumbler, more and more you fall back on the "look at the poster" argument.  Surely the champion of complaining about ad hom arguments can do better than that.

I complain about arguments that employ the ad hominim fallacy.  When an ad hominim is the correct and logical argument, it is not fallacious.  You took the most bizarre possible interpretation oif my statement, and Berkut noted that.  I simply pointed out the truth that you pretty much always post the most bizarre possible interpretations you can think of for anything I say, because you are setting up an attack and what I say is generally too reasonable and logical to attack unless distorted.

[garbon]

So now the police raided both Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Oakland. I wonder where the protests will go from here...

Someday perhaps democracy will come to the USA. Just not yet. 

I hope that we're never in a place where democracy = shantytowns.

Then don't vote Republican.

Voting Republican seems like it would only encourage these individuals...

I'd call reducing the U.S. to a third world hellhole "encouragement," sure.

Oh get out of here, you partisan hack.

[Neil]

maybe. So arrest those using drugs.
Apart from restricting peoples' right to peaceful and lawful assembly, it's the way it was done.  One in the morning.  Media blocked off. Police helicopters and according to something I've read it was organized by Homeland Security....like these were Al Qaeda terrorists. It was vaguely reminiscent of Brezhenev era Soviet Union.

Interestingly enough, lawful assembly isn't an excuse to just live wherever you like.

I suppose you would have liked to have given themi the time and opportunity to mount a violent resistance and create some propaganda to stir things up.  That's not how sucessful societies function.

[grumbler]

With that attitude?  He damned well better be packing, or he's going to have people punching him everywhere he goes.

  My attitude gets me through life just fine - even through life outside my basement.  And when my mom does something I don't like, I have friends that I can discuss it with; I feel no need to go bawl my eyes out in front of a bunch of people whom I don't really know on the internet.

So, Mr Glass-House, watch the stone-throwing.

[Neil]

Raz must have really gotten under your skin.

[Ed Anger]

They have antibiotics for that.

[Darth Wagtaros]

They have antibiotics for that.

Cybernetic implants are even better.

[alfred russel]

Bloomberg is sending in the NYPD Winged Hussars.

It is probably the best outcome for OWS. This was either going to fizzle out during the winter or be crushed by the police.

[DontSayBanana]

Interestingly enough, lawful assembly isn't an excuse to just live wherever you like.

I suppose you would have liked to have given themi the time and opportunity to mount a violent resistance and create some propaganda to stir things up.  That's not how sucessful societies function.

Public hazards also trump lawful assembly.  Philly's talking about moving them out of the plaza outside City Hall since at least one tent went up in flames, and they're saying they've had numerous EMS calls for illnesses related to unsanitary conditions.  Of course, the Occupy people are hemming and hawing because they're being asked to relocate to the plaza outside the police headquarters, even though it actually has more space and is right across the street.