[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Valmy]

I am just glad this Tory guy is not a Liberal politician.  Think how confusing that would be.

[Barrister]

It has nothing to do with "Reform roots".

It is odd then that you would refer to electoral failures of Conservative candidates that where directly impacted by the Reform party siphoning off votes and completely ignoring that effect on vote outcome in your criticism of this candidate.

The only election that applies to is 1993.  Every other election I mentioned was municipal or provincial.

And every election has its own unique twists and turns.  Not every politician who loses an election is a bad politician.  But when you have a track record like Tory's, you can start to draw a few conclusions.

And maybe he can "rebuild the base of the party in the Toronto area".  I just wouldn't be confident about it.

[crazy canuck]

It has nothing to do with "Reform roots".

It is odd then that you would refer to electoral failures of Conservative candidates that where directly impacted by the Reform party siphoning off votes and completely ignoring that effect on vote outcome in your criticism of this candidate.

I don't think that the Reform was running in the Ontario provincial elections or the Toronto mayoral race.  The collapse of Mike Harris' government was probably a bigger factor in terms of damaging the Tory brand.

I dont think they were either. Reform never was going to win in Ontario at any level.  But that didnt stop them from doing damage where they could.

[Malthus]

My fear is that Tory and Chow split the anti-Ford vote between them on left/right lines, leaving Ford the winner - more long years of his assclownery. 

[Neil]

My fear is that Tory and Chow split the anti-Ford vote between them on left/right lines, leaving Ford the winner - more long years of his assclownery. 

Would that really be so bad?

[HVC]

My fear is that Tory and Chow split the anti-Ford vote between them on left/right lines, leaving Ford the winner - more long years of his assclownery. 

could be worse, could be Karen Stintz

[Jacob]

My fear is that Tory and Chow split the anti-Ford vote between them on left/right lines, leaving Ford the winner - more long years of his assclownery. 

I guess you can hope that Tory and Ford split the Conservative vote, giving Chow a path to victory.

Of course, I don't know the breakdown of the demographics and voting patterns. I guess the question is whether Tory voters would be more likely to vote for Chow or Ford if he wasn't in the race?

[crazy canuck]

My fear is that Tory and Chow split the anti-Ford vote between them on left/right lines, leaving Ford the winner - more long years of his assclownery. 

Why do you hate late night TV 

[Josephus]

Have we seen any polling yet?  If Ford's voters transfer their loyalty to Tory, then that would be something for the Liberals to be concerned about.

Unless the right votes split down the middle and hand it to Chow.

[Josephus]

Can't believe all you westies are discussing Toronto. 

[Barrister]

Can't believe all you westies are discussing Toronto. 

I know - I'm so ashamed. 

[Jacob]

Can't believe all you westies are discussing Toronto. 

It's the Ford legacy!

[Malthus]

My fear is that Tory and Chow split the anti-Ford vote between them on left/right lines, leaving Ford the winner - more long years of his assclownery. 

I guess you can hope that Tory and Ford split the Conservative vote, giving Chow a path to victory.

Of course, I don't know the breakdown of the demographics and voting patterns. I guess the question is whether Tory voters would be more likely to vote for Chow or Ford if he wasn't in the race?

From what I've read, it's a three-way split, with Ford votes remaining more or less static (those voting for him obviously don't care about scandals and are unlikely not to vote for him). Dunno what that portends.

[Malthus]

My fear is that Tory and Chow split the anti-Ford vote between them on left/right lines, leaving Ford the winner - more long years of his assclownery. 

Would that really be so bad?

I would prefer a mayor who was capable of doing stuff other than get wasted, shoot his mouth off, eat everything in sight, and boast about his oral sex skillz. 

Entertaining as all that is, there is a certain amount of actuall stuff that needs doing. 

[garbon]

Yeah right.