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Started by Josephus, March 22, 2011, 09:27:34 PM

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Josephus

Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 03:03:56 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 02:49:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on Today at 02:34:43 PMTo be fair Ford was leading in the polls throughout, including prior to Trump's inauguration.

So was Poilievre. Until he fumbled.

... or alternately, until the Federal Liberals under Trudeau rose to the occasion.

I am not so sure the Liberals would have rebounded if Trudeau had not resigned.  Carney is polling way ahead of PP as the person Canadians trust most to deal with Trump.  That is not true of any other Liberal.

I think he might have. Maybe not as much but there is a Trump bump for the Liberals
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Zoupa

Carney's gonna need to dumb it down in speeches and interviews if he wants to have a chance in the next election. Dude talks like a professor.

Valmy

Quote from: Barrister on Today at 03:41:06 PMPro-Carney voices are going to paint him as an experienced technocratic leader.  Anti-Carney voices are going to paint him as an out-of-touch elitist.

Those seem like two things that are usually true at the same time  :ph34r:
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Quote from: Barrister on Today at 03:41:06 PMFormer investment banker, recruited into Canada's finance department, then Governor of the Bank of Canada during the 2008 financial crises.  Later recruited to  be Governor of the Bank of England and saw the UK through Brexit.
Also the first phase of covid - his term as Governor of the BofE ended the day before the UK's first lockdown.
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Oexmelin

Quote from: Barrister on Today at 03:36:50 PMPoilievre's problem is he's an opposition leader.  He literally can't respond like Ford because Ford leads a government.

I think that's his only mode. Current circumstances would have allowed him to play the part of the head of state. He hasn't. I don't think he can: grievance is his grammar.
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viper37

Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 03:46:00 PMCarney's gonna need to dumb it down in speeches and interviews if he wants to have a chance in the next election. Dude talks like a professor.
Yeah.  Politicials need to adopt the AOC and Trump approach.  Address people like they are toddlers or talk like a toddler.  Sure win.  <sigh>

I miss the old times.  Duplessis knew how to talk to people.
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Josephus on Today at 03:44:53 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on Today at 03:03:56 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 02:49:56 PM
Quote from: Barrister on Today at 02:34:43 PMTo be fair Ford was leading in the polls throughout, including prior to Trump's inauguration.

So was Poilievre. Until he fumbled.

... or alternately, until the Federal Liberals under Trudeau rose to the occasion.

I am not so sure the Liberals would have rebounded if Trudeau had not resigned.  Carney is polling way ahead of PP as the person Canadians trust most to deal with Trump.  That is not true of any other Liberal.

I think he might have. Maybe not as much but there is a Trump bump for the Liberals

Yeah, I think that is correct. PP's Trumpist rhetoric was always going to hurt him after people saw what a Trumpist government really looks like, whether or not it is fair to say that PP would have gone to the same extremes.

viper37

I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Neil

It's my understanding that the BC Conservative Party is full on Trumpist insane, the kind of people who think that Poilievre is caving to wokeness by not ending all immigration.  The kind of people who would fall for Maxime Bernier's grift.
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