The Off Topic Topic

[Jacob]

PM your address and i'll deliver in person.

Let me know when you're coming - and what you want to do while here - and I'll do just that

[Barrister]

PM your address and i'll deliver in person.

Let me know when you're coming - and what you want to do while here - and I'll do just that

I've suggested a couple of times we should do a Vancouver meet-up.  If Katmai is there I will almost certainly make it as well.

[Josquius]

The clocks go forward this weekend.
One hour less of sleep

This was a fascinating story.
Elephants vs. Rhinos. Who would win?

https://www.kotafoundation.org/the-delinquents-in-pilanesberg/

Cool. KOTA legit or crackpots?

I've seen the same story told differently elsewhere. Seems legit.

[garbon]

Got up at 6am this morning to present to clients in Australia. I'm tired.

[garbon]

The clocks go forward this weekend.
One hour less of sleep

Yeah, but it is just a small sacrifice required to then enjoy better, sunnier weather. Sort of like how gaining that one hour in autumn is a token positive to heading into the world of cold and darkness.

[celedhring]

The clocks go forward this weekend.
One hour less of sleep

Yeah, but it is just a small sacrifice required to then enjoy better, sunnier weather. Sort of like how gaining that one hour in autumn is a token positive to heading into the world of cold and darkness.

I know it supposedly does a lot of bad shit to our cyrcadian rythms, but I love Spanish summer nights with daylight until 10 pm.

[Duque de Bragança]

The clocks go forward this weekend.
One hour less of sleep

Yeah, but it is just a small sacrifice required to then enjoy better, sunnier weather. Sort of like how gaining that one hour in autumn is a token positive to heading into the world of cold and darkness.

I know it supposedly does a lot of bad shit to our cyrcadian rythms, but I love Spanish summer nights with daylight until 10 pm.

The real problem in Spain is having Central European Time since Franco. 

[Josquius]

Yeah. That's crazy. Shouldn't most of the country be in GMT-1?
At least be in GMT.

[Duque de Bragança]

Well, GMT-1 would be too much (Azores Times) but GMT used to be standard time for France and Belgium too. Never reverted to it after WWII for different reasons. 

[celedhring]

The clocks go forward this weekend.
One hour less of sleep

Yeah, but it is just a small sacrifice required to then enjoy better, sunnier weather. Sort of like how gaining that one hour in autumn is a token positive to heading into the world of cold and darkness.

I know it supposedly does a lot of bad shit to our cyrcadian rythms, but I love Spanish summer nights with daylight until 10 pm.

The real problem in Spain is having Central European Time since Franco. 

I know that, and that's why our schedules are a bit wacky (we do everything later than in most Euro countries), since sunlight and time zone don't align well. But man, those sunny summer evenings 

It was done to align Spain with Berlin's time in the 1940s, incidentally. Just in case Spain entered the war. Never got changed back although the issue keeps coming up.

[mongers]

The clocks go forward this weekend.
One hour less of sleep

Yeah, but it is just a small sacrifice required to then enjoy better, sunnier weather. Sort of like how gaining that one hour in autumn is a token positive to heading into the world of cold and darkness.

I know it supposedly does a lot of bad shit to our cyrcadian rythms, but I love Spanish summer nights with daylight until 10 pm.

Yeah, one of the few benefit for living up at 51 degrees North.

edit:
I hadn't reflected on implications of European time until now, so looking it up the figures for near mid-summer, well 20th June:
London sunrise - 4.42am  sunset - 9.20pm
Bilbao   sunrise - 6.31am   sunset - 9.55pm   

Wow and that was the most easterly northern Spanish city I could quickly find.

I can see how that disconnect might mess with ones rhythms.

[Grey Fox]

Look at the Chinese time zone crazyness.

20th of June 2018

Hotan - City in Xinjiang
sunrise 07 h 20 sunset 22 h 03

Beijing
sunrise 04 h 45 sunset 19 h 46

[mongers]

Look at the Chinese time zone crazyness.

20th of June 2018

Hotan - City in Xinjiang
sunrise 07 h 20 sunset 22 h 03

Beijing
sunrise 04 h 45 sunset 19 h 46

Yeah those seem to be as bad as the Spanish examples. Though being further south not so long a day as compared to Spain or the UK. 14.75 hrs and 15 hrs  vs 16.5 and 15.5 for London and Bilbao respectively.

Good to see our Portuguese friend pre-emptively overthrow their European overlords by setting their time in lock-step* with Blighty. 


*I haven't checked the details so a wild guess.

[Josquius]

The clocks go forward this weekend.
One hour less of sleep

Yeah, but it is just a small sacrifice required to then enjoy better, sunnier weather. Sort of like how gaining that one hour in autumn is a token positive to heading into the world of cold and darkness.

I know it supposedly does a lot of bad shit to our cyrcadian rythms, but I love Spanish summer nights with daylight until 10 pm.

Yeah, one of the few benefit for living up at 51 degrees North.

edit:
I hadn't reflected on implications of European time until now, so looking it up the figures for near mid-summer, well 20th June:
London sunrise - 4.42am  sunset - 9.20pm
Bilbao   sunrise - 6.31am   sunset - 9.55pm   

Wow and that was the most easterly northern Spanish city I could quickly find.

I can see how that disconnect might mess with ones rhythms.

Spanish people : not naturally lazy. Time zones made them that way.

[Duque de Bragança]

Yeah those seem to be as bad as the Spanish examples. Though being further south not so long a day as compared to Spain or the UK. 14.75 hrs and 15 hrs  vs 16.5 and 15.5 for London and Bilbao respectively.

Good to see our Portuguese friend pre-emptively overthrow their European overlords by setting their time in lock-step* with Blighty. 


*I haven't checked the details so a wild guess.

Actually, Portugal tried to switch to CET between 1992 and 1996 but reverted to WET (GMT/UTC+0) due to alleged troubles such as disrupted child sleep patterns (no darkness in Summer around 22.00 or even 22.30) or more road accidents according to insurance companies.
Where the Larch lives, in Galicia just north of Portugal, CET does not make sense at all, it's less marked of course in Catalonia.
My recollection of it is vague but I remember some confusion so it does match.