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Ukraine's European Revolution?

Started by Sheilbh, December 03, 2013, 07:39:37 AM

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DGuller

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 20, 2014, 05:20:19 PM
The no use of guns against Ukranians line was interesting.  The qualification likely means the guns might have to be used against Russians.
I think the more likely explanation is that it means "stop shooting fellow Ukrainians in the head with sniper rifles".


DGuller

Quote from: crazy canuck on February 20, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
Why not say no use of guns then
To highlight just how fucked up the situation that they're trying to correct was, and to remind those on the other side of the scope who their targets are.

crazy canuck

Quote from: DGuller on February 20, 2014, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 20, 2014, 05:48:56 PM
Why not say no use of guns then
To highlight just how fucked up the situation that they're trying to correct was, and to remind those on the other side of the scope who their targets are.

That makes sense - in an all too sad way  :)

alfred russel

Quote from: DGuller on February 20, 2014, 05:47:43 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on February 20, 2014, 05:20:19 PM
The no use of guns against Ukranians line was interesting.  The qualification likely means the guns might have to be used against Russians.
I think the more likely explanation is that it means "stop shooting fellow Ukrainians in the head with sniper rifles".

I think it just makes sense period. I mean, you can't say, "the military can't use guns" without qualification. Otherwise, are they supposed to use pikes? What about in training?
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Baron von Schtinkenbutt

Quote from: alfred russel on February 20, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
I think it just makes sense period. I mean, you can't say, "the military can't use guns" without qualification. Otherwise, are they supposed to use pikes? What about in training?

They'll raise a regiment of winged Hussars in Lwow.

crazy canuck

Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on February 20, 2014, 06:42:15 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on February 20, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
I think it just makes sense period. I mean, you can't say, "the military can't use guns" without qualification. Otherwise, are they supposed to use pikes? What about in training?

They'll raise a regiment of winged Hussars in Lwow.

:lol:

celedhring


CountDeMoney

Quote from: Queequeg on February 20, 2014, 06:36:33 AM
Georgia was shelling a city in a bid to ethnically cleanse two minorities. This is a bit different.

Wrong, shitbird.

Razgovory

Quote from: celedhring on February 20, 2014, 07:47:37 PM
Rebels got their AT ready.



Indiana Jones is going to come down on them,

"It belongs in a museum!"
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11B4V

Quote from: celedhring on February 20, 2014, 07:47:37 PM
Rebels got their AT ready.



Those look like D44's. What the fuck, they pillage a museum.
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CountDeMoney

#761
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 20, 2014, 11:03:27 AM
QuoteEurope cares more about the Ukraine than Syria, I'm not sure the US does. Certainly not far far more. We probably care more about Venezuela than either of them.
I don't mean sentiment or press coverage though. By that sort of measure Cuba matters, which is mad. I think the US government would care far more about Ukraine, an aggressive Kremlin and expanding Russian influence than a civil war with no good guys or a Latin American basketcase.

And that's different than most of the time since 1945 how, exactly?
Ukraine spinning back into the Muscovite orbit is a movie we've seen before, and has been the rule more than the exception, so in the end it's not as big of a deal to the foundations of US foreign policy as you think it would be. 

There were no Ukrainians on the 9/11 flights, and unless Al Qaeda of Ukraine is starting to sprout up in Kharkov, we know where the US's priorities are.

derspiess

I'm sure most Ukraine Reserves gear does belong in a museum.
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Admiral Yi

At least the gun crews look competent and determined.

CountDeMoney

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 20, 2014, 09:41:20 AM
Quote from: Tamas on February 20, 2014, 09:39:28 AM
this week he has switched from his traditional Georgian fandom to Russian fandom. It will pass. :P

Squeelus has consistently been a psycho about modern Georgia.

Maybe a Armenian/Georgian competition thing?  :hmm:

It's always a dirtbag ethnicky Borat thing with guys like him.  You simply can't talk to those pipples when it comes to geopolitics, unless it's Jews and then everybody's with the pogrom.