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Changing The Creepy Guy Narrative

Started by garbon, July 18, 2013, 08:39:33 AM

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The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

merithyn

Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Brain

Women want me. Men want to be with me.

derspiess

Quote from: merithyn on July 18, 2013, 11:57:05 AM
Then why even bring this up? You're saying that it's women's fault for responding, but then say that even if women didn't, there would still be creeps.

I'm just saying that the women who do respond positively to this behavior encourage the behavior & make it worse for the majority who do not.

But I'm sorry to challenge the notion that no women bear any responsibility for any of their own problems.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:08:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
I don't. :blush:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

Quote from: derspiess on July 18, 2013, 12:24:53 PM
But I'm sorry to challenge the notion that no women bear any responsibility for any of their own problems.

Come on, dude, don't do that.  You're above the strawman thing.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Brain

Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:08:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
I don't. :blush:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

garbon

"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

The Brain

Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:27:41 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:08:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
I don't. :blush:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.

Serious question.

We already established in this thread that most or all people like kinky fuckery, so it being common says next to nothing about it being kinky or not.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

garbon

Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:29:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:27:41 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:08:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
I don't. :blush:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.

Serious question.

We already established in this thread that most or all people like kinky fuckery, so it being common says next to nothing about it being kinky or not.

Well whoever established that has trouble with english:

relating to, having, or appealing to unconventional tastes especially in sex
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

merithyn

Quote from: derspiess on July 18, 2013, 12:24:53 PM

I'm just saying that the women who do respond positively to this behavior encourage the behavior & make it worse for the majority who do not.

But I'm sorry to challenge the notion that no women bear any responsibility for any of their own problems.

What you're actually saying is that because a small minority of women enjoy this kind of heavy-handed tactic, all women must suffer for it.
Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

The Brain

Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:29:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:27:41 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:08:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
I don't. :blush:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.

Serious question.

We already established in this thread that most or all people like kinky fuckery, so it being common says next to nothing about it being kinky or not.

Well whoever established that has trouble with english:

relating to, having, or appealing to unconventional tastes especially in sex

OK grumbler.
Women want me. Men want to be with me.

garbon

Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:33:31 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:29:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:28:03 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:27:41 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:22:30 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: The Brain on July 18, 2013, 12:08:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 18, 2013, 12:07:06 PM
I don't. :blush:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Maybe you were thinking I was like Mart with his feet?

Ethnic gay sex is pretty fucking kinky.

Is Sweden still in the 19th century? Here in the 21st, it is pretty common.

You're just trolling now.

Serious question.

We already established in this thread that most or all people like kinky fuckery, so it being common says next to nothing about it being kinky or not.

Well whoever established that has trouble with english:

relating to, having, or appealing to unconventional tastes especially in sex

OK grumbler.

Can you explain for me then what definition of kinky we're using so that I can understand you? Only fair if you are going to say I'm kinky when I think I'm not.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Jacob

Quote from: derspiess on July 18, 2013, 12:24:53 PMI'm just saying that the women who do respond positively to this behavior encourage the behavior & make it worse for the majority who do not.

So you're laying the blame for creeps being creeps at women rather than the creeps. Who don't you think the creeps should be held responsible for their own actions?

QuoteBut I'm sorry to challenge the notion that no women bear any responsibility for any of their own problems.

... but that's not what you're doing, nor are you sorry :huh: