The Off Topic Topic

[Josquius]

I'm working class. Though an argument for middle class can be made given I've been in decent work for a decade now.
But if I'm upper class then boy do they have a low bar these days.
That's just silly.
 

[The Brain]

Only the true upper-classer would deny his own upper-classery.

[Valmy]

Only the true upper-classer would deny his own upper-classery.

'What? Well what chance does that give me? Alright! I am upper class!'

'He is! Hail the posh one!'

[Sheilbh]

Doing the rounds but fascinating map of housing built before 1919 in France:


Can see some broader trends - Greater Paris, Toulouse, the West and the Alps. But also the First World War front line really marked out (I suspect Normandy landing knowers would spot similar historic marks (I can see Le Havre, for example).

[HVC]

I'm guessing the west coast is from population growth?

[mongers]

I'm guessing the west coast is from population growth?

Toulouse is another good obvious example of this, the growth of airbus/aerospace means lots of new built housing.

[Josquius]

The line in the north east stands out very strongly.

Curious the west coast is so new too.

[Duque de Bragança]

I'm guessing the west coast is from population growth?

Toulouse is another good obvious example of this, the growth of airbus/aerospace means lots of new built housing.

Port areas were destroyed during WWII with Festungen or bombings. The whole coast, however, is due to tourism.

[Josquius]

Randomly seen online somebody crunched eurostat data to come up with a true list(s) of Europe's biggest cities.

https://github.com/Neatling/European_City_Lists/blob/main/Neatling_EU_City_List_FINAL.pdf

Interesting to see Newcastle is in the top 50 there. And Leeds lack of a tram looks even more ridiculous .

[Valmy]

Doing the rounds but fascinating map of housing built before 1919 in France:


Can see some broader trends - Greater Paris, Toulouse, the West and the Alps. But also the First World War front line really marked out (I suspect Normandy landing knowers would spot similar historic marks (I can see Le Havre, for example).

The First World War front line is amazingly striking.

But obviously the greater trend seems to me the poorer the region the more old buildings they will have around, which I guess is probably true everywhere. But this is only an impression.

[Razgovory]

"We go above and beyond in sanitation! For instance, when we haven't mopped the floor in 2-3 weeks the 5 second rule becomes a 3 second rule."

"Hey don't turn off that annoying beeping!  It's drowning it out the country music."


-Notes from the Deli.

[HVC]

In the culinary word its called extra flavour

[Zanza]

Is the Bourgogne so poor?

[HVC]

Is the Bourgogne so poor?

Dispite josquis' views I think France also has some wacky house laws that make renovations and teardowns very difficult*. So if it wasn't blown up during the war(s) you've got a lot of old stock housing.


*Duque can confirm or deny.

[Sheilbh]

The line in the north east stands out very strongly.

Curious the west coast is so new too.

Yeah - as Duque says with all of the coast this is post-1919 so you've also got the Popular Front and paid holidays and the establishment of the month long conge paye. So I suspect that's definitely part of it as seaside resorts are established and grow through the inter-war and then post-war.

A lot is urbanisation in general - and I supect the post-war metropolisation. You can really see Greater Paris around a very small, older Paris but also, say, Toulouse. I think the West has grown a lot more and been a bit of a hub in the last few decades though - I want to say maybe since the 90s?