Facebook Follies of Friends and Families

[Darth Wagtaros]

In an unrelated matter, Afghanistan has just legalized slavery.

It wasn't already?

[Valmy]

I just want to state for the record I am anti-slavery.

[Tonitrus]

It's legal here too...just confined to a narrowly approved category.

[Tonitrus]

Also, doing some research on the Afghanistan thing...hard to find any real data or concrete facts other than articles decrying it.

And most of those just point to how the Taliban imposed a new legal code that stratifies classes of people (also bad), one of which is "slave", and then notes how the criminal code adjust depending on your class designation.  (roughly, "elites/nobles" and "scholars" who commit crimes get a talking to...everyone else gets imprisoned/whipped)

[HVC]

So they're implementing a caste system?

[Syt]

It's legal here too...just confined to a narrowly approved category.

Incidentally, the US has privatized chunks of the prison system and one of the highest incarceration rates, globally.  Honi soit qui mal y pense.

[Valmy]

So they're implementing a caste system?

This never would have happened if they had stuck with Zunism.

[The Minsky Moment]

This never would have happened if they had stuck with Zunism.

You can't blame the Afghans because Microsoft cancelled their music player.

[The Minsky Moment]

Also, doing some research on the Afghanistan thing...hard to find any real data or concrete facts other than articles decrying it.

And most of those just point to how the Taliban imposed a new legal code that stratifies classes of people (also bad), one of which is "slave", and then notes how the criminal code adjust depending on your class designation.  (roughly, "elites/nobles" and "scholars" who commit crimes get a talking to...everyone else gets imprisoned/whipped)

Taliban follows the Hanafi school of jurisprudence.
Crimes are divided into
               "Huddud" - serious crimes defined in the Quran like murder, robbery, etc.
                 "Tazir" - less serious crimes that are defined by local mores and cultural practice like usury, pornography, sale of defective products, etc.

Under the Hanafi school and the Taliban code, the Tazir crimes are punished differently by class.  Huddud crimes are punished the same for everyone, except I believe for slaves, who can receive lesser punishment for certain non-violent offenses because of diminished autonomy.  The Taliban code follows this distinction between Tazir and Huddud.

[Tonitrus]

Afghanistan might have other things to worry about though...

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-pakistan-airstrikes-open-war-98927b79ee9ef5741bf0804956d3c2e6

Pakistan's defense minister says that there is now 'open war' with Afghanistan after latest strikes

"Our patience has now run out. Now it is open war between us," he said. There has been no reaction from Afghan government officials to Asif's comments.

...

His remarks came hours after Pakistan carried out airstrikes in Afghanistan's capital, Kabul, as well as in Kandahar in the south and Paktia province in the southeast, according to Pakistani officials and Afghanistan government spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid. Pakistan says the strikes were in retaliation for Afghan cross-border attacks.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Another reason to keep the borders closed. Got enough barbarians within the gates already

[Valmy]

Another reason to keep the borders closed. Got enough barbarians within the gates already

Sure. In more ways than one.

Every single youtube video I see about European history now is filled with hysterical people acting like Europe is now fully controlled by Muslims of various stripes and then I will take a look at whatever country's demographics and the percentage of Muslims is well below 10% of the population.

Given that hysteria I think it is probably best for the safety of Muslims to avoid Europe.  This will probably not end well for them.

I have to say here in the US I see people trying to whip up terror over Sharia Law and shit but...25% of kids born to Muslims here leave Islam which is about consistent with most other religions. They clearly are not any more fanatical or capable of sustaining themselves more than other religions. So even if I was concerned about another one of those damn abrahamic religions becoming a political force I am kind of put at ease. But maybe Euro Muslims are different.

[Valmy]

Afghanistan might have other things to worry about though...

https://apnews.com/article/afghanistan-pakistan-airstrikes-open-war-98927b79ee9ef5741bf0804956d3c2e6

Pakistan's defense minister says that there is now 'open war' with Afghanistan after latest strikes

"Our patience has now run out. Now it is open war between us," he said. There has been no reaction from Afghan government officials to Asif's comments.

...

His remarks came hours after Pakistan carried out airstrikes in Afghanistan's capital, Kabul, as well as in Kandahar in the south and Paktia province in the southeast, according to Pakistani officials and Afghanistan government spokesperson Zabihullah Mujahid. Pakistan says the strikes were in retaliation for Afghan cross-border attacks.

Serves those fuckers right. They helped create the Taliban.

Imperial blowback comes for all of us eventually.

[Duque de Bragança]

So they're implementing a caste system?

Nope, that's infidel hindu, so haram. 

[The Minsky Moment]

Another reason to keep the borders closed. Got enough barbarians within the gates already

I agree we have too many barbarians in the gates in the US already.  But closing off immigration won't help with that, very few new migrants are seeking cabinet and sub-cabinet level positions in the Trump administration.