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What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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Valmy

Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on Today at 04:05:49 PMthough your president has more powers than a run of the mill monarch.
It's one of the reasons monarchs are popular: they're without teeth. Having been brought to heel by constitutions, mostly.

Our President had far more power than the British Monarch from day 1 of our Constitution. Ironically I guess.

Well...outside of Hanover anyway.
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Bauer

Quote from: Valmy on Today at 06:37:28 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on Today at 04:05:49 PMthough your president has more powers than a run of the mill monarch.
It's one of the reasons monarchs are popular: they're without teeth. Having been brought to heel by constitutions, mostly.

Our President had far more power than the British Monarch from day 1 of our Constitution. Ironically I guess.

Well...outside of Hanover anyway.

I always assumed the founding fathers of America wanted to create their own monarch in a way.  Ironic indeed.

viper37

Quote from: Valmy on Today at 02:02:01 PM
Quote from: viper37 on Today at 02:00:07 PM
Quote from: Norgy on Today at 09:17:56 AMThe monarchy is still largely a popular institution
Everywhere they are, these people remain popular.
Sweden, Norway, Netherlands, Spain, US, UK & Commonwealth, people seem to love them.

Personally, I blame Disney for this idea that having a King or Queen is super cool.

Hey! We're not a monarchy yet.
I see someone noticed :P

Some people sure seem fond of absolutism.
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viper37

Quote from: Valmy on Today at 06:37:28 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on Today at 04:05:49 PMthough your president has more powers than a run of the mill monarch.
It's one of the reasons monarchs are popular: they're without teeth. Having been brought to heel by constitutions, mostly.

Our President had far more power than the British Monarch from day 1 of our Constitution. Ironically I guess.

Well...outside of Hanover anyway.
Interesting readings I just did.

The first attempt to expand the President and government power came from Thomas Jefferson.  Criticizing the government became a crime.

Interesting.  Never knew that.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Anyway, public enemy #1 has been identified.
Your new Cobra Commander leader of the Antifa:

Feds Identify "Leader of Antifa" 



QuoteTwenty-nine year old Chandler Patey has been regularly protesting outside his local ICE facility in South Portland for months, offering up his apartment to fellow protesters to use the bathroom or wash off pepper spray, according to local news.

To the Department of Homeland Security, "he is the leader of Antifa in Portland, OR."

That phrase appears in an internal report produced by DHS, the largest law enforcement agency in the country. As they see it, Patey—a young man accused of no crime and who looks like a random protester plucked off the streets of Minneapolis—is a domestic terrorist.

In Patey's apartment, Fox News hosts Laura Ingraham and Jesse Waters saw something sinister: an "Antifa safe house," as they called it in multiple segments. This kind of idiocy is hardly unprecedented by the standards of cable news, of course; but the federal government is buying into the hysteria, too. Documents leaked to me show Patey and countless other American protesters have been branded as domestic terrorists. As a result, their private information is now being collected and stored in a DHS intelligence system shown below.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

grumbler

Quote from: Bauer on Today at 08:38:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on Today at 06:37:28 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on Today at 04:05:49 PMthough your president has more powers than a run of the mill monarch.
It's one of the reasons monarchs are popular: they're without teeth. Having been brought to heel by constitutions, mostly.

Our President had far more power than the British Monarch from day 1 of our Constitution. Ironically I guess.

Well...outside of Hanover anyway.

I always assumed the founding fathers of America wanted to create their own monarch in a way.  Ironic indeed.

Not really all that ironic.  The Founding Fathers wanted to combine the offices of Head of State (the king in the UK) and Head of Government (Prime Minister in the UK).  To offset that, they divorced the executive from the legislative branch.
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Quote from: Tamas on January 31, 2026, 10:36:11 AMNot really surprising that apart from a quickly deleted (and to be fair probably indeed over-the-top fake) testimony, I haven't seen anything found about Trump yet in the millions of newly released documents. Which is quickly making him the only celebrity in America not to be featured in there somewhere.

Very convincing.

There is quite a bit about Trump, including incriminating testimony about him, but it's not getting covered presumably because the press has been intimidated about reporting on unconfirmed claims, even if their existence is newsworthy.

More broadly, if people are waiting to find Prince Andrew kinds of revelations of Epstein procuring girls for Trump, I doubt that is in the cards.  I don't think that was the nature of their relationship.  Rather, they were both parallel players who understood and respected each other's "game". and enjoyed playing it alongside each other.

There is rarely much subterfuge or subtlety for Trump, his crimes and vices are usually in the open for all to see, if one is looking. Both Trump and Epstein were deeply involved in the model agency world of the 80s and 90s, which was all about recruiting teenage girls and marketing them out to wealthy men. Trump even founded his own agency in the 90s; he also acquired Teen USA and famously would stroll through the changing rooms to ogle the teens. Epstein and Trump both had close ties to Paolo Zampolli, a model agency head who brought Melania to Trump and teamed with Epstein to try to acquire the infamous Elite agency. Zampolli later did work for Trump Org and has been appointed to various federal jobs.  It's all there, all out in the open.  People have just decided to look the other way.

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