TV/Movies Megathread

[Sheilbh]

She also added "perhaps not as forcefully as I should have."

Whatever narrative you or I choose to attach to Demi and Jeremy's discussion of risk, the fact remains that in the movie, Jeremy takes drastic action after listening to Spock but not after listening to Demi.

Yes. But they also take drastic action because the volatility has exceeded the model 5-6 days in the last two weeks and Irons cannot hear a thing - while she flagged the risk a year prior.

I think everyone in the film is clearly very good at the job and also basically do the only things they could. They matter but also don't. It's part of what I think makes it such a good film.

[Admiral Yi]

Yes. But they also take drastic action because the volatility has exceeded the model 5-6 days in the last two weeks and Irons cannot hear a thing - while she flagged the risk a year prior.

I think everyone in the film is clearly very good at the job and also basically do the only things they could. They matter but also don't. It's part of what I think makes it such a good film.

What has she been doing for the last year?

BTW, I think the 2nd risk assessment associate does not show he is clearly very good at his job.

You never answered my question: what additional scenes would you have liked to see written for Demi?

[Sheilbh]

What has she been doing for the last year?

Her job. She escalated the risk, a decision was taken and there's probably plenty of other risks to manage in the next year - plus decisions to take with firing people etc.

You never answered my question: what additional scenes would you have liked to see written for Demi?

No idea. I'm not a writer and I'm not saying there's a gap in the plot (although I don't think I've ever spotted a plot hole ). Just think she's good in it and a bit underused compared to some of the others.

[Admiral Yi]

there's undoubtedly other risks to manage, as she's head of risk management. that means one of the risks she's supposed to manage is this one.

[Sheilbh]

Sure - and she has a boss. She flagged the risk, they accepted it.

I think my view is similar to cc's but a little different in that I don't read it as a character flaw. I think why I like the film is that none of the characters' flaws actually matter - similarly there are no heroes. It's not about greed or anything like that but simply being in an office/working for a company.

I think there's several points in the film (including with her) where different characters note "didn't seem like much a choice" and that's the point in my view. You could be the most principled person in the world screaming about the risk a year before it hits and you'd have been fired a lot earlier, and you'd have lost your options and your healthcare etc. Similarly you could be the opposite (maybe the Penn Badgley character) and you'll still get fired. Everyone is doing their job, everyone's smart and doing it well - none of them exemplify anything, they are just in the system, working.

[Admiral Yi]

And then Spock flags it and they don't.  Which makes me  think there was something different in the two flaggings. One done well, and one not as well.

I don't think it was a failure of character on Demi's part, rather a failure of analysis.

Disagree about nobody mattering.  Irons is the confident ruthless guy. Spock is the brainiac who shows they, and everyone else in the industry, has had it wrong. Spacey is the depressed cheerleader.  Etc., etc.  Take them all away and you have a 12 minute documentary on a failure or risk assessment followed by a fire sale.