What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[DGuller]

If all the Democrats are in that ZIP code, I think it's a very bad thing.  I'm a firm believer that glass doors in the pharmacies gave Trump a lot of votes, because they were a regular reminder of the failure of Democratic governance.  The voters may not always differentiate between different kinds of Democrats when they stare at daily reminders of failures.

So does electing one of those failed Democratic governors, like Cuomo, counter that in some way?

Cuomo didn't fail because of the perception of his governance (rightly or wrongly).  So, yes, electing someone whose governance would probably not be awful would counter that by preventing the election of someone whose governance probably would be very awful.

[HVC]

As menti9ned i really don't know much about him (accept his rap career and religion lol) but what would make him a bad mayor?

[Sheilbh]

Trump whisperer Rutte strikes again. Fortunately for him  he doesn't mind debasing himself to get the job done. Not sure the Royal family enjoyed it as much 

That text message was extraordinary

[The Brain]

Voting based on ideology and not on narrow personal interest doesn't seem inherently a bad thing to me. It certainly can be, depending on the ideology and narrow personal interest, just like the opposite.

It isn't ignorance or stupidity that makes people turn to Republicanism. It is malice.

[Legbiter]

I'm a little amazed the Republicans are now the diversity party while the Democrats are the white, college-educated gentry/Tory party. 

[crazy canuck]

I'm a little amazed the Republicans are now the diversity party while the Democrats are the white, college-educated gentry/Tory party. 

Yes, and even more amazing is the Republicans have been able to fool people into believing that is accurate.

[The Brain]

The greatest trick God ever pulled was convincing people He exists.

[Razgovory]

In this case I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

Ok so what are you actually in favor of Raz? You clearly hate Trump. But you also seem to despise the mainstream consensus of the past 40 or so years. But here you lash out at the leftwing challenge to it.

So you hate the mainstream consensus and how it created all this wealth inequality. You hate the nationalist right wing challenge to it. You seem to hate the leftwing challenge to it.

So...so...what is it that you are for exactly?

I would like to see liberals treat people equally.  If you wouldn't say it about a black person, don't say it about white person.  If you wouldn't say it about a Muslim, don't say it about a Christian, if you wouldn't say it about a transperson, don't say it about straight person.  Likewise if it wrong for a white person to do something, it is wrong if a black person does it etc.  Enough of this bullshit about "Power levels" and "privilege" other stuff that really doesn't help anyone.  I think you can sell equality to people, even conservatives.  Selling a system where some people are favored and other disfavored is a harder sell.

[Admiral Yi]

If we use the same definition as the US, we are already at 2%...

Spain, 1.28%.  Italy, 1.54%. Canada, 1.3%. 

[Jacob]

If we use the same definition as the US, we are already at 2%...

Spain, 1.28%.  Italy, 1.54%. Canada, 1.3%. 

Source?

[grumbler]

The GOP didn't even necessarily run on things like anti trans movement, as far as a I can tell. They ran on dems want to put men in girls teams and bathrooms, but we care about giving you cheaper eggs. So they still won on an economics push. they are just much better at lying about it than the dems. And that's their true skill, they haven't forgotten how to be politicians. Promise the people what they want. Delivering it is optional. In this case, and in most cases, people want more affordable lives. The average person doesn't care about who wears a dress or who doesn't, they care about feeding their family. That's why blacks and Hispanic votes increased. Because they're also in the poorest demographics. For various reasons dems have stoped carrying about economic matters of the lower caste, but I don't know why they forgot how to lie about it.

You really don't think that increasing the minimum wage, providing more affordable housing, and expansion of Medicaid are not issues impacting the "lower caste?"  Obviously, the Republicans believed that the average person cared about who wears a dress or who doesn't, because they ran on an anti-trans platform. They don't actually care about the trans issue, but they knew that blacks and Hispanics did care and that's why they increasingly voted for Trump.

Polls say that voters care most about the economy, but that's not how voters vote.

[Sheilbh]

Source?

How NATO calculates it (from the 2024 report):
https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2024/6/pdf/240617-def-exp-2024-en.pdf

[Admiral Yi]

Source?

Google AI and wiki.

[Tamas]

This the guy beating Cuomo? I know nothing about him, and only found out about him yesterday good luck to him.

The Dems running the corrupt and disgraced former governor is such a Democratic thing to do. Imagine a guy actually addressing issues people care about and not being totally discredited winning votes? Maybe the mainstream party should try it at some point.

That sounds like a lot of work though.

[The Minsky Moment]

Is it really to vote against their own interest to vote against the people that hold them in contempt? Honestly I don't think they think of it as voting against their own interests, in the past 40 years people like you have gotten richer and people like them have not.

You are right Raz, I have gotten richer recently.  Because Trump keeps cutting my taxes to screw everyone else. Honesty, I'd rather be a little poorer and live in a functional democracy that can provide a decent future for my kids.  So I guess you and DG are right; not everyone votes their immediate, short term economic interest.

But I'm still struggling to understand the motivation. I'm not running for office and the only people I hold in contempt are the people currently running Congress and the Executive Branch.  Your argument is that folks are voting to express their hostility against people like me, by voting for candidates that make people like me richer and make people like them worse off?  It seems to me that it's that line of reasoning that expresses contempt for those voters.  I'd like to think that there is some other motivation.