What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[HVC]

Add that to the hurt that the liquor industry too and it just shows Canada is made up of a lot of boozers

[Admiral Yi]

Two biggest US wine states are California and Washington.  Not the reddest states.

[Grey Fox]

Not relevant. Trump's politics are all states politics.

[Jacob]

Down 93% to Canada. That's substantial.

[Bauer]

U.S. wine export market struggling after Canada 'pulled the plug,' expert says

Wine firms here in the U.S. thought that a tariff on (imported) goods, including wine from Canada, would be a boon, but it has turned out the other way around," Karl Storchmann, executive director of the American Association of Wine Economists, told BNN Bloomberg in a Wednesday interview.

US wine exports to Canada down 93%.
US wine exports to China down 30%.

And these two markets where were the US was exporting its most expensive wines.


Republican voters will be tired of voting anytime now. 

 

[Zoupa]

US wine is piss poor and not cheaper, even before tariffs. Win win for canadians.

[Gups]

US wine is piss poor and not cheaper, even before tariffs. Win win for canadians.

Ridiculous statement. US produces numerous superb wines (as well as a lot of dross, but that is true of all major wine producing countries). Sadly, the good mid-level ($20-$60/bottle) wines are quite hard to find here with a few exceptions like Au Bon Climat and Ridge. I agree there is usually better value to be found in Europe - I'm afraid less than 1% of my cellar is American, though I'd like to increase it.

[Zoupa]

US wine is piss poor and not cheaper, even before tariffs. Win win for canadians.

Ridiculous statement. US produces numerous superb wines (as well as a lot of dross, but that is true of all major wine producing countries). Sadly, the good mid-level ($20-$60/bottle) wines are quite hard to find here with a few exceptions like Au Bon Climat and Ridge. I agree there is usually better value to be found in Europe - I'm afraid less than 1% of my cellar is American, though I'd like to increase it.

Taste is relative. I'm sure there's a handful of wineries that could maybe pass. It's not the fault of the americans. Most wine producing countries have centuries or millenia worth of experience, savoir-faire and soil work. So yeah, win-win for Canadians. We'll buy south american or european instead.

[celedhring]

My experience with yank wines is that while there are some excellent ones, they really struggle to produce reasonably priced good wines. When I lived there I often resorted to Chilean/Argie wines, which were more commonly found in stores than here in Europe. Also Aussie wines, which were a nice discovery.

[crazy canuck]

I think Zoupa might be referring to flood of new owners of wineries negatively impacting quality.

There are still good wines to be had, but you need to be careful, and really why bother with the hassle when you can turn to reliable quality and lower price from established vintners in other countries.

[viper37]

Two biggest US wine states are California and Washington.  Not the reddest states.

Irrelevant.
LA, San Diego,San Francisco and Seattle aren't producing wine.

Their countryside, deeply red, are.  Besides, the lobbies know no borders.  The US wine industry welcomed the tariffs.  Just like the US softwood lumber industry and the US steel and automobile unions.

If they don't like it, they can lobby their Congress to take back their power.

[viper37]

US wine is piss poor and not cheaper, even before tariffs. Win win for canadians.

Ah stop it.

In a blind test, Californian wines often outclass French and other European wines.

Just like everything, Quebec and the SAQ doesn't always import the best stuff from everywhere at the best possible price.  Well, maybe with the liberalization of inter provincial commerce some Canadian wines get cheaper to buy.  I can only live of hope.  For the few bottles I now drink in a year, it doesn't really matter.

A state monopoly that doesn't manage our money in an appropriate manner, and makes no effort to deliver the best product at the best price, it's shocking, isn't it?  Next thing you know, they'll spend billions of $ on some computer stuff they don't really understand and tells us it doesn't really matter, history we'll see this as a footnote.

[viper37]

US wine is piss poor and not cheaper, even before tariffs. Win win for canadians.

Ridiculous statement. US produces numerous superb wines (as well as a lot of dross, but that is true of all major wine producing countries). Sadly, the good mid-level ($20-$60/bottle) wines are quite hard to find here with a few exceptions like Au Bon Climat and Ridge. I agree there is usually better value to be found in Europe - I'm afraid less than 1% of my cellar is American, though I'd like to increase it.

Taste is relative. I'm sure there's a handful of wineries that could maybe pass. It's not the fault of the americans. Most wine producing countries have centuries or millenia worth of experience, savoir-faire and soil work. So yeah, win-win for Canadians. We'll buy south american or european instead.

It's the same problem for everywhere in the new world: Canada, US, Australia, New Zealand, South America.

And the old world has to face climate change.  What was once great soil for vines is now burnt to a crisp in some places.  Or becoming quickly too arid.

While in some places, it's becoming perfect ground as they can plant higher up the mountains.

That being said, I followed recommendations on Canadian wines and was again disappointed with the last batch.  So far, I've found only one good bottle from Ontario.  But the price has now increased beyond what I'm willing to pay.  The others came from BC, were more affordable, but tasted like grape fruit.  Way too fruity, despite a high consumer note (4.5/5 and 5/5) on the SAQ site.  Not gonna get caught again.  I'm sticking to the Quebec wine I know if I want local products.

[crazy canuck]

The problem with getting wine from other areas is the good stuff rarely makes it out of the local market.

[Admiral Yi]

Irrelevant.
LA, San Diego,San Francisco and Seattle aren't producing wine.

Their countryside, deeply red, are.  Besides, the lobbies know no borders.  The US wine industry welcomed the tariffs.  Just like the US softwood lumber industry and the US steel and automobile unions.

If they don't like it, they can lobby their Congress to take back their power.

Bakersfield is red.  I would need some evidence that Napa is red.