The Off Topic Topic

[Jacob]

The sorts of drone useful in naval warfare ARE conventional aircraft.  They are just unmanned.  If you have a dozen small drone launcher ships with drones that go 100 miles and I have a carrier with drone that go 300 miles, I will wipe the floor with you.

I don't think any more carriers should be built, but the idea that drones will wipe out Britain's carriers in two weeks is fantasy.

Not trying to second guess you here at all because I don't have much of a grounding in modern naval warfare, but what about the naval drones Ukraine have been fielding - Magura I think they're called? How do they fit into the overall puzzle?

[Syt]

Poor Low Germans.
Shadowrun creates native American nations out of nowhere but they remain forgotten.

It actually takes me back to a science magazine in the late 80s/early 90s about global warming that had the town of Itzehoe (which was 20 minutes form me) underwater, with gondolas operated by pilots in protective suits (against the UV radiation - it was during the height of the hole in the ozone layer being at peak public awareness) among the ruins.

Keep in mind, Germany's lowest point in the Wilstermarsch was also in the area (which made it a map in one of those near future RTS games in the late 90s), which was even more surreal when I first saw it than Dithmarschen being playable in EU4 https://endwar.fandom.com/wiki/Wilstermarsch

[grumbler]

Not trying to second guess you here at all because I don't have much of a grounding in modern naval warfare, but what about the naval drones Ukraine have been fielding - Magura I think they're called? How do they fit into the overall puzzle?

They are effective in what amounts to coastal warfare and any naval strategy that involves invasions or naval logistical support of land forces will have to be prepared to deal with them. Beyond coastal waters, though, they are not very effective because they have a very short detection range, being small and close to the water.  They wouldn't be a major threat to a carrier operating in open waters.

[Josephus]

No, I was in downtown Oshawa.  I had just arrived that day and didn't realize Victoria Day was a firework holiday.

It isnt really. Oshawa puts a really good show on Canada Day weekend.

Anyway, next time you're in my hood, give me a call.

[Syt]

Slightly inspired by the mention of George Wendt's age in the Dead Pool thread - since we're all getting up there in age (or have surpassed it): Patrick Stewart was around 47 when he first appeared on Star Trek TNG (born in 1940, show premiered in 1987).

[MadImmortalMan]

He's 85? Wow.

[Savonarola]

No, I was in downtown Oshawa.  I had just arrived that day and didn't realize Victoria Day was a firework holiday.

It isnt really. Oshawa puts a really good show on Canada Day weekend.

Anyway, next time you're in my hood, give me a call.

Definitely, though I'm probably not heading back to the GTA in the foreseeable future.  I'm disappointed as I do like the city; especially starting this time of year.   

[Josquius]

GTA6 is due out next year.
I'm going back.

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

I haven't been there since GTA 3: SA, but I'll probably be back because Vice City.

[garbon]

Slightly inspired by the mention of George Wendt's age in the Dead Pool thread - since we're all getting up there in age (or have surpassed it): Patrick Stewart was around 47 when he first appeared on Star Trek TNG (born in 1940, show premiered in 1987).

I'm not even 40.

[Josquius]

On a "lighter shipping accident" note.
Oh Norway...

https://www.nrk.no/trondelag/bat-pa-grunn-i-trondheimsfjorden-1.17427456

[Valmy]

I'm not even 40.

You were always the baby around here though

[Grey Fox]

Any of us getting ready for retirement? YI maybe?

[Valmy]

Any of us getting ready for retirement? YI maybe?

20 years out here.

My retirement party in 2045 is going to be awesome.

[Grey Fox]

I'm hoping to be 20 years out too but it's probably more realistically 25 years out.