What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[crazy canuck]

I've been reading up a bit on Andry Romero and the El Salvadorean prison he's been sent to.

I lack the words to describe my disgust at the American administration for perpetrating this cruelty on an innocent man.

 

[Valmy]

I've been reading up a bit on Andry Romero and the El Salvadorean prison he's been sent to.

I lack the words to describe my disgust at the American administration for perpetrating this cruelty on an innocent man.

Yeah, that shit is evil.  Even if the guy was guilty of... something the idea that you can send a person to a foreign country to get around US law is simply wrong.

Yeah even if he was a criminal, that is cruel and unusual.

It's disgusting.

[Richard Hakluyt]

Abreo Garcia will not be returned to the US.

Wrongly deported man not leaving El Salvador prison, Bukele says at Trump meeting


What happens when the President ignores the SC ruling?

Nothing at all.

[Barrister]

I've been reading up a bit on Andry Romero and the El Salvadorean prison he's been sent to.

I lack the words to describe my disgust at the American administration for perpetrating this cruelty on an innocent man.

Yeah, that shit is evil.  Even if the guy was guilty of... something the idea that you can send a person to a foreign country to get around US law is simply wrong.

Yeah even if he was a criminal, that is cruel and unusual.

It's disgusting.

I had a certain sympathy for Bukele and the El Salvadoran government.  The country was such a disaster that it seemed like just rounding people up based on gang tattoos and nothing more was perhaps justifiable.

But to then act as Trump's personal gulag?  Ugg, does not sit well at all.

[The Minsky Moment]

I had a certain sympathy for Bukele and the El Salvadoran government. 

Stop having that.

People like Bukele crave chaos and lawlessness so they can substitute their own more organized and even more violent lawlessness for it.

[Jacob]

I had a certain sympathy for Bukele and the El Salvadoran government.  The country was such a disaster that it seemed like just rounding people up based on gang tattoos and nothing more was perhaps justifiable.

But to then act as Trump's personal gulag?  Ugg, does not sit well at all.

I was reading a piece on the prison gulag. Absolutely brutal conditions, and they're saying none of the people they've incarcerated are ever coming out. Basically if they send you there, you stay there until you die.

That's... unsympathetic IMO.

[HVC]

I had a certain sympathy for Bukele and the El Salvadoran government. 

Stop having that.

People like Bukele crave chaos and lawlessness so they can substitute their own more organized and even more violent lawlessness for it.

Well at least during the transition period the civilians have it good. Remains to be seen for how long.

[DGuller]

Actually I think transition periods are the most dangerous ones.  That's when the rules are not clear and ever evolving, and when people are just starting to get thirsty for blood.  Eventually people learn the rules by which to live by, and as long as your soul is sufficiently dead and you choose to obey, and you don't get unlucky, you'll be relatively safe.

[HVC]

I think it depends on what you're transitioning from. Going from order to chaos like say, off the top of my head, the US right now, can lead to some dangerous situations. But starting off from a dangerous situation, and El Salvador was definitely dangerous, a transition can  be beneficial. That's not to say it always is, or that the final state will be better for all. El Salvadors current transitory state, from what I can tell, has left the average person much better off.

[viper37]

Trump's budget proposals include cutting State Dept budget by 50%, cutting UN and NATO financing to 0$.

Trump weighs slashing State Department budget by nearly half

White House proposes drastic cuts to State Department and funding for UN, NATO and other groups

[Valmy]

I mean when you plan on only having your personal dictator friends as your allies and otherwise plan on the US being an autarkic pariah police state, you just don't want international laws or allies or diplomacy.

[viper37]

Panama opposition party accuses US of 'camouflaged invasion'

I suppose this is what we'll get here if Poilièvre is elected.

I hope Denmark can reinforced Greenland with friendly Euro troops.

[HVC]

Panama opposition party accuses US of 'camouflaged invasion'

I suppose this is what we'll get here if Poilièvre is elected.

I hope Denmark can reinforced Greenland with friendly Euro troops.

Better off putting a Russian base there. America would never invade their patron.

[Barrister]

I had a certain sympathy for Bukele and the El Salvadoran government. 

Stop having that.

People like Bukele crave chaos and lawlessness so they can substitute their own more organized and even more violent lawlessness for it.

Don't tell me what to think or feel.

The lawlessness of El Salvador long-predated Bukele.  He did not create the chaos.

But it goes to the inherent contradiction of Trumpism (or at least one of them).  If you don't want a bunch of migrants coming to your country - do what you can to improve the conditions in those countries so migrants don't feel the need to migrate!

If you're the government of El Salvador I don't know what the exact best answer is to deal with rampant gang violence.  But clearly the status quo wasn't working all that well.

[crazy canuck]

On Monday afternoon, Harvard became the first university to refuse to comply with the administration's requirements, setting up a showdown between the federal government and the nation's wealthiest university. By the evening, federal officials said they would freeze $2.2 billion in multiyear grants to Harvard, along with a $60 million contract.