What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

Started by FunkMonk, November 08, 2016, 11:02:57 PM

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HVC

Poor John. Insurance is important, but at this point he's probably tarnishing his brand.


In more trump is an idiot News looks like your toilette paper is gonna get more expensive. 50% of your TP comes from Canada. Trumps tariffs are not only making eating more expensive but shitting too. So much winning.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

dist

More frightening news on the war against free speech, Rumeysa Ozturk and Mahmoud Khalil appear to be only a few amongst over.
 
Quote from: The GuardianRubio boasts of 300 cancelled visas
The US secretary of state, Marco Rubio, boasted on Thursday that he has cancelled more than 300 visas for people he labelled "lunatics" in connection with pro-Palestinian university campus protests.

The US state department is undertaking a widespread visa-review process, revoking hundreds of visas and placing hundreds more under scrutiny, targeting mostly foreign nationals engaged in pro-Palestine activism, according to official statements.

During a visit to Guyana, Rubio said: "We do it every day, every time I find one of these lunatics."

Talking about Otzurk, Rubio said: "We revoked her visa ... once you've lost your visa, you're no longer legally in the United States ... if you come into the US as a visitor and create a ruckus for us, we don't want it. We don't want it in our country. Go back and do it in your country."

dist

Had missed these quotes from Trump.

QuoteEarlier this week, US president Donald Trump said:

"It's an island that from a defensive posture, and even offensive posture, is something we need, especially with the world the way it is, and we're going to have to have it."

"So, I think we'll go as far as we have to go. We need Greenland and the world needs us to have Greenland, including Denmark."

Somehow I had thought that the announced scaling back of US official visits this week was signaling an possible inflection toward appeasement, but you can't really back down when the president is openly threatening military intervention.

Valmy

Quote from: HVC on March 28, 2025, 01:37:56 AMIn more trump is an idiot News looks like your toilette paper is gonna get more expensive. 50% of your TP comes from Canada. Trumps tariffs are not only making eating more expensive but shitting too. So much winning.

None of that seems to matter at all anymore. Inflation and rising prices was a big issue until the moment Trump was elected. Now nobody seems to care.

The right wing propaganda network really drives the conversation in this country.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

The Minsky Moment

Again, this is the problem that arises when an ignoramus views every foreign policy issue through the lens of a NY real estate developer. The US already has a base in Greenland.  Nothing was stopping the US from expanding that base or building any infrastructure there they wanted.  The Danes wouldn't have a problem with it and neither would the Greenlanders.

But in Trump's brain, all that matters is who holds the deed.

Yes in an era of warming Greenland has greater strategic importance. But no amount of warming is going to transform the soil and allow for agricultural self-sufficiency of a large population. Even in a hypothetical world of an entirely ice-free Arctic, it still will remain remote and far from any other major population center. It will always be a resource drain on whoever owns it.

The US was perfectly positioned prior to 2025 with Greenland under the control of one of the most friendly and reliably pro-American allies, allowing the US to effectively contract out the hassles of territorial administration and just focus on what infrastructure if any it wants there.  Now they've bought themselves drama and a shit show.
The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.
--Joan Robinson

mongers

Don't worry too much chaps:

67 Days of BS so far.

Only One thousand, three hundred and ninety-four days of trump BS to go.  :cool:
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Richard Hakluyt

Denmark pays a subsidy of about $600m to Greenland each year; having dependant colonies isn't so great these days.

HVC

Quote from: Valmy on March 28, 2025, 09:42:02 AM
Quote from: HVC on March 28, 2025, 01:37:56 AMIn more trump is an idiot News looks like your toilette paper is gonna get more expensive. 50% of your TP comes from Canada. Trumps tariffs are not only making eating more expensive but shitting too. So much winning.

None of that seems to matter at all anymore. Inflation and rising prices was a big issue until the moment Trump was elected. Now nobody seems to care.

The right wing propaganda network really drives the conversation in this country.

Fox news can't hide money evaporating from wallets. Eventually it'll have an effect on the populace that they can't blame on biden. When? I'm not sure.

Truthfully I'm not even sure it'll matter. I bitched about it earlier but the dems don't seem to be offering any real alternative anyway. Oex says to protest and to agitate, but to what end? The alternative can save democracy but they don't seem to offer the people anything to want to make that change. The GOP at least offers lies and false hope. Democrats can't even manage that.
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

viper37

Quote from: Syt on March 28, 2025, 12:39:39 AMJD Vance has been put in charge of making sure that the Smithsonian and its adjuncts show THE TRUTH and not "divisive narratives" and "ideological indoctrination."
That one?


There's another one that removes the definition of race as a social construct too and replaces it as a biological construct.
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

viper37

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on March 28, 2025, 10:07:07 AMDenmark pays a subsidy of about $600m to Greenland each year; having dependant colonies isn't so great these days.

But how much does it get from the natural resources extraction, and the US military base?  That does not go to Greenlanders pockets.

It's always a matter of perspective with these things.


In any case, the "acquisition" of Greenland by the US is more the libertarian deal of Peter Thiel than any kind of "security concern" or wealth acquisition.
A Startup Linked to Peter Thiel Wants to Build the "Next Great City" in Greenland
I don't do meditation.  I drink alcohol to relax, like normal people.

If Microsoft Excel decided to stop working overnight, the world would practically end.

Valmy

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Quote from: HVC on March 28, 2025, 10:10:28 AMTruthfully I'm not even sure it'll matter. I bitched about it earlier but the dems don't seem to be offering any real alternative anyway. Oex says to protest and to agitate, but to what end? The alternative can save democracy but they don't seem to offer the people anything to want to make that change. The GOP at least offers lies and false hope. Democrats can't even manage that.

They don't do politics. The Democrats. We have a few actual politicians out there like Bernie and AOC who will say things and give us a vision of the future. But the Democrats both hate them and offer no alternative.

It was my frustration when Schumer and Jefferies were responding the frustrated rank and file Dems with "what can we do?" well how about doing politics? How about having a political agenda and attacking your opponents? There is a whole army of motivated and ready Democratic voters and just general anti-Republican ones ready to do political battle, they just want a party to assist them and lead them.

They act like that somehow their job is just to do parliamentary stuff. But they even suck at that. They have no parliamentary skills or maneuvers or legislation they want. No schemes, no back door plots. Nothing. Schumer  and the Senators seemed positively shocked that their votes would be necessary to get to 60 votes in the Senate at any point during this legislature. The whole thing completely caught them by surprise, as if they never heard of how the Senate worked before. I recall Democrats were asked what big legislation they were going to pass if they had won the election and they had no idea.

So they are a barely functioning political party. They don't do politics nor do they do parliamentary action. The only Democrats who do politics are those that go rogue.

The only conclusion I can draw is that this is because they are ultimately controlled by the same donors that control the Republicans, and the Republicans are simply more aligned with the donors than the Dems. So the donors want to keep them quiet and compliant for now. That conclusion annoys me since it is so conspiratory, but I am not sure what other conclusions one might draw.

If the Democrats ever come back into power I am certain it will be with no plan and no energy to actually reverse to any significant degree anything the Republicans have done, much less to actually advance a political agenda of their own. That is very demotivating as somebody opposed to the Republicans.

It probably was a bad sign that the most energetic and effective spokesman for the Biden administration was the Secretary of Transportation.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

dist

Quote from: mongers on March 28, 2025, 09:47:36 AMDon't worry too much chaps:

67 Days of BS so far.

Only One thousand, three hundred and ninety-four days of trump BS to go.  :cool:

Personally, I just started to count them like that:

We are one day closer to Trump's inevitable death.

With the hope he will croak before the end of those one thousand, three hundred and ninety-four days of BS.

Valmy

Quote from: mongers on March 28, 2025, 09:47:36 AMDon't worry too much chaps:

67 Days of BS so far.

Only One thousand, three hundred and ninety-four days of trump BS to go.  :cool:


None of that is certain. Both that Trump will live that long or that his death will make the situation better or that if he does live long enough to reach the end of his term that will be the end of Trumpism.

The polls suggest Trump is more powerful and popular than ever.
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

dist

Obviously, but you have to take the wins that you can ;)

Valmy

Quote from: dist on March 28, 2025, 11:50:47 AMObviously, but you have to take the wins that you can ;)

In normal times your opponent having a major political scandal would be enormously good news. A big win. These days the Trump regime has one roughly every few days and it doesn't seem to do anything  :lol:

All the British Tories had to do was have a party. Trump commits scandals 100 times worse every day.

I am not certain I even know what a win or good news even looks like anymore  :ph34r:
Quote"This is a Russian warship. I propose you lay down arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed & unnecessary victims. Otherwise, you'll be bombed."

Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."