What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

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Admiral Yi

Quote from: HVC on March 28, 2025, 05:49:46 PMThinking a winter offensive? Ballsy.


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heh

Just the one, not the traditional two, because that's all you deserve.

dist

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 28, 2025, 05:40:38 PMI am willing to bet that the US does not annex Greenland by this summer.

But then, what's the point? What's the end game? They have nothing to extract by bullying Denmark. They don't even need this as an internal distraction. And since there is nothing to extract and nothing to distract from, the only logical conclusion would be that they are serious.

Admiral Yi

Quote from: dist on March 28, 2025, 06:26:20 PMBut then, what's the point? What's the end game? They have nothing to extract by bullying Denmark. They don't even need this as an internal distraction. And since there is nothing to extract and nothing to distract from, the only logical conclusion would be that they are serious.

I don't know what the point is.  If you want me to extend some speculative theories, I would say either Trump enjoys chaos or thinks his voters enjoy chaos.  Or perhaps he enjoys demonstrating his power, and thinks a good way to do this is to trample on norms.

When do you think the US will annex Greenland?

dist

To be clear, I don't know if the US will annex Greenland and I'm not sure that I believe this will really happen, but I don't understand what Trump and Co are trying to accomplish and cannot just brush it aside.

And I don't think this is just a Trump thing, the fact that Vance is fully part of that circus shows that it's more than just some trolling of the Dear Leader.

Admiral Yi

I'm pretty sure the US will not annex Greenland, I can only guess what Trump and Co are trying to accomplish and cannot just brush it off either.

PJL

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 28, 2025, 06:43:50 PMI'm pretty sure the US will not annex Greenland, I can only guess what Trump and Co are trying to accomplish and cannot just brush it off either.

No, they are serious about annexing Greenland, it's gone beyond mere rhetoric. Even the BBC reporting is beginning to seriously entertain this possibility. Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that they want Greenland for some greater reason. If it was just to contain Russia then more US bases would not be an issue for Denmark/Greenland. Ditto mineral rights. But as an additional base to one day attack Canada, that's another story. So the only way the US can help to achieve that is by annexing Greenland.

HVC

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 28, 2025, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 28, 2025, 05:49:46 PMThinking a winter offensive? Ballsy.


:P

heh

Just the one, not the traditional two, because that's all you deserve.

As always, i'll take what i can get :D
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Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Razgovory

The greater reason Trump wants Greenland may just be so he can rename it after himself, so his name appears on all world maps.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Admiral Yi

Quote from: PJL on March 28, 2025, 06:55:55 PMNo, they are serious about annexing Greenland, it's gone beyond mere rhetoric. Even the BBC reporting is beginning to seriously entertain this possibility. Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that they want Greenland for some greater reason. If it was just to contain Russia then more US bases would not be an issue for Denmark/Greenland. Ditto mineral rights. But as an additional base to one day attack Canada, that's another story. So the only way the US can help to achieve that is by annexing Greenland.

OK.  Want to take the bet?

PJL

Remember when Putin was going on about threatening to take Ukraine, many people thought it was just sabre rattling / 5D chess. Turns out he actually was serious about doing just that. Trump & co are doing the same thing with Greenland and ultimately Canada.

PJL

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 28, 2025, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: PJL on March 28, 2025, 06:55:55 PMNo, they are serious about annexing Greenland, it's gone beyond mere rhetoric. Even the BBC reporting is beginning to seriously entertain this possibility. Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that they want Greenland for some greater reason. If it was just to contain Russia then more US bases would not be an issue for Denmark/Greenland. Ditto mineral rights. But as an additional base to one day attack Canada, that's another story. So the only way the US can help to achieve that is by annexing Greenland.

OK.  Want to take the bet?

Absolutely.

Razgovory

Trump just pardoned Carlos Watson, a former MSNBC host.  He was convicted of fraud and wat about to go to prison.  I'm beginning to think that Trump is just trying to decriminalize fraud.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

mongers

Quote from: PJL on March 28, 2025, 05:38:54 PMSo when will the US annex Greenland? Not saying if as it's pretty much a near certainty at this point. Best case scenario is Denmark selling it to the US. Otherwise it looks like it could go to war. Probably will be this summer IMO.

Of course the main reason to get Greenland is to isolate Canada even further. The excuses re Russia/China are BS IMO. Expect Canada to be invaded next Spring. This will give the Trump admin an excuse to acquire wartime powers & suspend elections etc.

trump will definitely go for it by the time of the next state of the union, it'll be his little green mean in Crimea moment.
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Admiral Yi

Quote from: PJL on March 28, 2025, 07:00:30 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 28, 2025, 06:58:54 PM
Quote from: PJL on March 28, 2025, 06:55:55 PMNo, they are serious about annexing Greenland, it's gone beyond mere rhetoric. Even the BBC reporting is beginning to seriously entertain this possibility. Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that they want Greenland for some greater reason. If it was just to contain Russia then more US bases would not be an issue for Denmark/Greenland. Ditto mineral rights. But as an additional base to one day attack Canada, that's another story. So the only way the US can help to achieve that is by annexing Greenland.

OK.  Want to take the bet?

Absolutely.

"The US annexes Greenland by August 31, 2025."  I've got the over. $US100 even money.  Deal?

We need an arbitrator in case of dispute on the payoff.  I propose Shelf or Joan.

Legbiter

Quote from: Admiral Yi on March 28, 2025, 05:59:42 PM
Quote from: HVC on March 28, 2025, 05:49:46 PMThinking a winter offensive? Ballsy.


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heh

Just the one, not the traditional two, because that's all you deserve.

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