What does a TRUMP presidency look like?

[crazy canuck]

Obviously, but you have to take the wins that you can

In normal times your opponent having a major political scandal would be enormously good news. A big win. These days the Trump regime has one roughly every few days and it doesn't seem to do anything 

All the British Tories had to do was have a party. Trump commits scandals 100 times worse every day.

I am not certain I even know what a win or good news even looks like anymore 

Yes, it looks grim. Trump's popularity is higher than it was at this point in his first term.

[Valmy]

Yes, it looks grim. Trump's popularity is higher than it was at this point in his first term.

Yeah. There is no good news or hope out there. At this point even a major catastrophe might not do it. Trump eliminating FEMA, like he did recently, would be a major political disaster in normal times. But that combined with a truly horrendous hurricane season, which is certainly not something I have any reason to expect or want obviously, might not even do it. People might just bow to Trump even lower to rally around the flag in a moment of crisis.

Similarly if Trump's policies lead to a major war or an economic collapse.

So would a major failing of Trump actually save us? I don't even know. They might actually help him.

It is hard to see a way out right now.

[Zanza]

While Trump is rising super damaging tariffs that lower the attractiveness of the US market for international companies, Xi Jinping tries to benefit from that by meeting with international CEOs... tough spot for multinationals that now have to localize and de-globalize to reduce risk to their supply chains. China is also unlikely to address its gigantic industrial overcapacity or raise consumption, so it stays a very ambivalent partner. But maybe still more attractive than the outright hostility of the Trump administration.

[Legbiter]

Denmark pays a subsidy of about $600m to Greenland each year; having dependant colonies isn't so great these days.

Yeah, it's a very sparsely populated island with very tough weather and geography. As to the human capital there, at least 10-15% of the population are Icelanders and/or Danes and Scandies of various stripes. The actual hunter-descended Greenlandic-speaking people are as a baseline about 20%+ Nordic in their contemporary baseline genomes. Some more, some less as these things go. They have, in general, an astonishing cold-adapted physique, even compared to Nordics. As to their in-real-life interactions, they are generally extremely polite, in fact they remind me in some ways of Japanese people. 

They have exactly the same social problems as any pure hunter population has when catapulted from the Stone/Copper Age to Space Age without the Neolithic and Bronze Ages to smooth the genome over. Most notably in terms of alcohol tolerance.

This is not some native shithole BB is obliged to do a tour of in order to prosecute half the male population for murder/rape and domestic violence. The Greenlanders are fiercely nationalistic and extremely worried and distressed by the US clownshow. 

[Syt]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/mar/28/greenland-jd-vance-europe-ukraine-russia-latest-news-updates?page=with%3Ablock-67e6f1348f08bb7e41c3487c#block-67e6f1348f08bb7e41c3487c

JD Vance's criticism of Denmark over Greenland - summary
US vice-president JD Vance said Denmark "has not done a good job at keeping Greenland safe," accusing it of "underinvesting in the people of Greenland and ... in the security architecture" of the island (19:23).

He argued that "Denmark has not kept pace in devoting the resources necessary to keep this base, to keep our troops, and in my view, to keep the people of Greenland safe" from Russia, China and other nations with interest in this area" (19:20).

He accused Denmark of "passing it all off" to Americans and hoping they would pick up the bill for it (19:30), saying the US argument was "with the leadership of Greenland," adding: "this simply must change" (19:25)

He called for allies to "wake up from a failed 40-year consensus that said that we could ignore the encroachment of powerful countries as they expand to their ambitions" and said "we can't just ... bury our head in the snow" (19:27).

Vance appeared to back the independence movement in Greenland, saying the administration's view was that the Greenlanders would "choose ... to become independent of Denmark, and then we are going to have conversations ... from there" (19:41).

But he said that Trump "does not think that military force is going to be necessary" to see the advances the US wants.

Speaking more broadly about the Trump administration's policies, including on tariffs, he said "we are done being the piggy bank of the entire world," while repeating his attack on "European friends" for "neglecting international security for 40 years" (19:35).

Also:

'We're done being piggy bank of entire world,' Vance says on tariffs and security
Vance then gets asked about tariffs, and specifically speaks about Canada saying that "as president Trump often says, they just don't have the cards."

"There is no way that Canada can win a trade war with the United States," he asserts.

He then says Trump ran on the ticket of "we're done being the piggy bank of the entire world for 40 years in the same way that our European friends, I think, have neglected international security for 40 years," and that drives Trump's agenda.

[Legbiter]

Only way modern Denmark survives in case of US invasion of Greenland is if it fights back seriously with dead Americans/Danes all over the place. Otherwise it'll be like the Kingdom of Iceland way back in 1940. Invaded by the Brits to the huge relief of everyone in Iceland, the fact nobody fought back violently means we have zero monarchists today. 

[Zoupa]

Also:

'We're done being piggy bank of entire world,' Vance says on tariffs and security
Vance then gets asked about tariffs, and specifically speaks about Canada saying that "as president Trump often says, they just don't have the cards."

"There is no way that Canada can win a trade war with the United States," he asserts.

He then says Trump ran on the ticket of "we're done being the piggy bank of the entire world for 40 years in the same way that our European friends, I think, have neglected international security for 40 years," and that drives Trump's agenda.

Felt relevant:

[mongers]

Only way modern Denmark survives in case of US invasion of Greenland is if it fights back seriously with dead Americans/Danes all over the place. Otherwise it'll be like the Kingdom of Iceland way back in 1940. Invaded by the Brits to the huge relief of everyone in Iceland, the fact nobody fought back violently means we have zero monarchists today. 

Interesting.

It's shit that there could be dead European military, killed by their own allies.

[Legbiter]

MAGA hates all Europeans with the seething fury of "Hutu Power".

They hate literally everything.

Being pro-American today is being a chump...

[crazy canuck]

MAGA hates all Europeans with the seething fury of "Hutu Power".

They hate literally everything.

Being pro-American today is being a chump...

The good news is most MAGA types can't find you on a map

[Baron von Schtinkenbutt]

The good news is most MAGA types can't find you on a map

"Ahce-land?  Dat where those funny-soundin' maple syrup fellas is frum?"

[mongers]

The good news is most MAGA types can't find you on a map

"Ahce-land?  Dat where those funny-soundin' maple syrup fellas is frum?"

 

[PJL]

So when will the US annex Greenland? Not saying if as it's pretty much a near certainty at this point. Best case scenario is Denmark selling it to the US. Otherwise it looks like it could go to war. Probably will be this summer IMO.

Of course the main reason to get Greenland is to isolate Canada even further. The excuses re Russia/China are BS IMO. Expect Canada to be invaded next Spring. This will give the Trump admin an excuse to acquire wartime powers & suspend elections etc.

[Admiral Yi]

I am willing to bet that the US does not annex Greenland by this summer.

[HVC]

I am willing to bet that the US does not annex Greenland by this summer.

Thinking a winter offensive? Ballsy.