[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Barrister]

On the one hand, the two specific cuts that I saw mentioned were UNRWA and AIIB, two things which are highly worthy of cutting.  On the other hand, an Arctic military presence is going to cost a lot more annually than what Canada is spending on those particular programs.  I'd like to know what other programs might be put on the chopping block, although I'm not going to jump to conclusions that Ukraine aid would be cut. 

And how much do Canadians company get back in contracts from these aid programs?

I would assume nothing.

I wouldn't assume that.

A lot of Ukraine military aid goes like this: we give the Ukrainians our old military goods, then go and buy ourselves new stuff to replace it.  Or we source goods to give to foreign countries from Canadian suppliers.

In fact I've seen the argument that foreign aid would be a lot more effective if we let the donor source goods locally - as the money could then continue to circulate in their own economy.

[viper37]

In fact I've seen the argument that foreign aid would be a lot more effective if we let the donor source goods locally - as the money could then continue to circulate in their own economy.

Yes.

It is the reason why occidental countries are so generous.

[crazy canuck]

On the one hand, the two specific cuts that I saw mentioned were UNRWA and AIIB, two things which are highly worthy of cutting.  On the other hand, an Arctic military presence is going to cost a lot more annually than what Canada is spending on those particular programs.  I'd like to know what other programs might be put on the chopping block, although I'm not going to jump to conclusions that Ukraine aid would be cut. 

And how much do Canadians company get back in contracts from these aid programs?

I would assume nothing.

I wouldn't assume that.

A lot of Ukraine military aid goes like this: we give the Ukrainians our old military goods, then go and buy ourselves new stuff to replace it.  Or we source goods to give to foreign countries from Canadian suppliers.

In fact I've seen the argument that foreign aid would be a lot more effective if we let the donor source goods locally - as the money could then continue to circulate in their own economy.

But we are talking about the aid that goes to Gaza and the apparatus set up by the Chinese.  Not foreign aid generally.

[crazy canuck]

On the one hand, the two specific cuts that I saw mentioned were UNRWA and AIIB, two things which are highly worthy of cutting.  On the other hand, an Arctic military presence is going to cost a lot more annually than what Canada is spending on those particular programs.  I'd like to know what other programs might be put on the chopping block, although I'm not going to jump to conclusions that Ukraine aid would be cut. 

And how much do Canadians company get back in contracts from these aid programs?

I would assume nothing.

I would assume a little more.
Here's one example

That article is about foreign aid generally.  Not the two organizations we were discussing.

[Grey Fox]

We should shore up Artic defense on its own. There is no need to stop feeding poor people over it.

[Jacob]

We should shore up Artic defense on its own. There is no need to stop feeding poor people over it.

There is no crisis or emergency that will not be used by Conservatives to argue for: 1) Cutting spending on the poor, whoever they are; and 2) Cutting Taxes for the rich.

[viper37]

That article is about foreign aid generally.  Not the two organizations we were discussing.

We should not assume they are different.

[Jacob]

I thought BC Premier David Eby's remarks at the opening ceremony of the Invictus Games were quite good

[crazy canuck]

That article is about foreign aid generally.  Not the two organizations we were discussing.

We should not assume they are different.

Why?

[viper37]

Tariffs of 25% in steel and aluminum have been declared on everyone but Australia.

America wants war.

Red States will suffer.

[crazy canuck]

I think it is only 10% on aluminum. But yeah, prices for all things made of metal in the US just went up.

[viper37]

I think it is only 10% on aluminum. But yeah, prices for all things made of metal in the US just went up.

La Presse reports 25% on both for all countries, it's just unclear if it applies on top of the 10% that had already hit China.

[crazy canuck]

Yeah, you're right. I was confusing what people thought was going to happen with what actually happened.

[Jacob]

Why did he exclude Australia?

[viper37]

Why did he exclude Australia?

Because they are very nice people.

Apparently, the US has a trade surplus with them.


Not that there is a trade deficit with Canada either.  It's only true if we exclude services.