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Elon Musk: Always A Douche

Started by garbon, July 15, 2018, 07:01:42 PM

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Tonitrus

Perhaps he just thinks that Nazis will be more pro-rocketry. :hmm:

HisMajestyBOB

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 20, 2024, 05:18:26 PMJust as a thought experiment.

Imagine that Elon Musk was an actual covert agent of the PRC and that he was charged among other things with sowing dissension and division in US society, degrading US state capacity, degrading the ability of the US to defend Taiwan, and doing what he could to block hostile actions to the PRC.

Would his conduct differ in any way from what he has been doing the last few years?

He would probably be more subtle.
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HVC

I sometimes wonder how Berk's doing
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Crazy_Ivan80

Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on December 20, 2024, 06:45:21 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 20, 2024, 05:18:26 PMJust as a thought experiment.

Imagine that Elon Musk was an actual covert agent of the PRC and that he was charged among other things with sowing dissension and division in US society, degrading US state capacity, degrading the ability of the US to defend Taiwan, and doing what he could to block hostile actions to the PRC.

Would his conduct differ in any way from what he has been doing the last few years?

He would probably be more subtle.
not necessarily...  see wolf-warrior-diplomacy.

Neil

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on December 20, 2024, 05:18:26 PMJust as a thought experiment.

Imagine that Elon Musk was an actual covert agent of the PRC and that he was charged among other things with sowing dissension and division in US society, degrading US state capacity, degrading the ability of the US to defend Taiwan, and doing what he could to block hostile actions to the PRC.

Would his conduct differ in any way from what he has been doing the last few years?
I've seen people unironically using this line of argumentation.  The idea that anybody who dissents from established opinion as a foreign agent is so seductive, and I remember is flying the other way after 9/11, and even earlier. 

The idea that Musk's brand of tech-boy selfishness could only be attributed to foreign intelligence just mystifies me. 
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Syt

I think it's tricky to judge. Could be that he's just his naturl bull-in-a-china-shop self. Could be that he's a useful idiot who believes himself smarter than he is by taking certain stances. Could be that he's acting certain ways in order to protect his business interests in China or keep his Saudi friends happy (I.e. a form of self censorship). Could be that there's actual pressure exerted on him.

Either way, with his entanglement in various foreign businesses he seems to pose a significant security risk to any government that seeks to employ him.
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Sheilbh

Quote from: Syt on December 20, 2024, 11:31:21 PMEither way, with his entanglement in various foreign businesses he seems to pose a significant security risk to any government that seeks to employ him.
Yeah - although his billions of Federal contracts pre-dates his involvement with Trump (can't help but think of a Ross Perot - also a tech guy, preaching government "efficiency", directly intervening in presidential politics and making a lot of money from government contracts).

In terms of his Saudi friends - because I'll never stop banging on about this (and it's also played an important role in prosecutions in the UK after the riots) - it's worth flagging that Twitter used to sometimes fight government and law enforcement requests to identify individuals wanted by states for things they'd been posting. For all he goes on about free speech absolutism, X has basically stopped fighting those requests entirely. They roll over even for requests (not court orders) from law enforcement, government agencies. I think for some groups - especially people who pay for X or try to monetise from it - Musk's changes have actually increased their legal risk because X absolutely knows who they are.
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viper37

There's a Twitter meltdown going on, kinda funny to observe.  A conservative fight of sorts.

Elon Musk has declared that the US needs more qualified immigrants and liked a post saying Americans are too stupid to fill engineer positions.

He has removed the blue check mark from several conservatives commentators after they attacked him, and now they are accusing him of using Twitter to censor free speech. 
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Also, he apparently has an alt-account, Adrian Dittman.
https://charlesjohnson.substack.com/p/how-elon-musks-twitter-alt-account

He uses to congratulate himself on his parenting skills. :lol:
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Syt

Him using sock puppet accounts is something he does.
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/elon-musk-deposition-twitter-burner-accounts-b2526018.html

Quote[...]

Though the court's transcript named that account as "baby smoke 9,000", this is likely a misnomer for @babysmurf9000, an existing account that has given many signs of affiliation with Mr Musk.

The identity of the other suspected alt, @ermnmusk, was confirmed by court exhibits seen by HuffPost, which first reported on the deposition.

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Here you can see his Elon Test account (smaller profile pic top right) in a screenshot he shared.

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.

Syt

Also, on the 24th he called on people to not donate to Wikipedia, because it has a woke agenda.

Donations to Wikepedia saw a notable bump afterwards :D
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—Stephen Jay Gould

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Zanza

We already knew he is a narcissist.

What I am always surprised about is how much time people like him or Trump have for social media.

HVC

Quote from: Zanza on December 29, 2024, 02:55:55 AMWe already knew he is a narcissist.

What I am always surprised about is how much time people like him or Trump have for social media.

It's almost like his career is hype over skill :ph34r:
Being lazy is bad; unless you still get what you want, then it's called "patience".
Hubris must be punished. Severely.

Sheilbh

Quote from: Zanza on December 29, 2024, 02:55:55 AMWe already knew he is a narcissist.

What I am always surprised about is how much time people like him or Trump have for social media.
Musk spent billions of someone else's money for the privilege of being the main character on Twitter every day.
Let's bomb Russia!

Syt

He was also invited by the editor in chief of German conservative paper Die Welt to write an op ed. Which Musk did and extolled that only AfD can save Germany. (He also said it's ok for him to weigh in on German elections because of his investments in the country.)
I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.
—Stephen Jay Gould

Proud owner of 42 Zoupa Points.