2024 US Presidential Elections Megathread

[Tonitrus]

But whomever it is...they'd have to be able to beat Donald Trump Jr. (or Eric Trump).

[HVC]

But whomever it is...they'd have to be able to beat Donald Trump Jr. (or Eric Trump).

Generic old white guy... but young enough not to be senile. Biden 2.0. Surely the geriatric party has someone.

[Neil]

But whomever it is...they'd have to be able to beat Donald Trump Jr. (or Eric Trump).

Do you think one of them could actually take over the machine?

[HVC]

Hell leave it all to baron, it's the only son he likes.

[Neil]

Hell leave it all to baron, it's the only son he likes.

I don't think he can.  He hasn't got that kind of control over his followers.  Without him, there are two many little kings that would never unite behind someone else.  The fact that he's been building his brand of 'rich guy' since the Eighties has given him the name recognition to secure more or less everyone beneath him, at least at the voter level. 

[Tonitrus]

But whomever it is...they'd have to be able to beat Donald Trump Jr. (or Eric Trump).

Do you think one of them could actually take over the machine?

Hard to say.  But assuming Trump doesn't/can't run again in 2028 (and I assume this), the MAGA cult of personality will need to redirect into a new host.  This would largely be directed by Trump himself, and as he appears to prize loyalty above all else, this will have to go to a family member.  I think Don Jr. is the the most likely.  Eric has null charisma, and Baron will need to wait until 2044.

If JD Vance thinks he is the heir apparent, he is more foolish then he appears.

[Tonitrus]

Hell leave it all to baron, it's the only son he likes.

I don't think he can.  He hasn't got that kind of control over his followers.  Without him, there are two many little kings that would never unite behind someone else.  The fact that he's been building his brand of 'rich guy' since the Eighties has given him the name recognition to secure more or less everyone beneath him, at least at the voter level. 

Baron will probably be the heir to the money.  That's the most important part.

[Neil]

Hell leave it all to baron, it's the only son he likes.

I don't think he can.  He hasn't got that kind of control over his followers.  Without him, there are two many little kings that would never unite behind someone else.  The fact that he's been building his brand of 'rich guy' since the Eighties has given him the name recognition to secure more or less everyone beneath him, at least at the voter level. 

Baron will probably be the heir to the money.  That's the most important part.

The money isn't very important at all.  Just ask Mike Bloomberg or Elon Musk.  The public persona is what counts, and Baron doesn't have anything like it.  Trump is lightning in a bottle, combining aspirational wealth, gaudy charisma, a media personality that was for decades pumped up by the media that now despise him, the instincts of a Baby Boomer unconcerned with Millennial social norms and a complete lack of shame. 

I don't think that Trump himself can pass on his leadership of the modern Republicans, as the whole thing runs on Trump alone.  His family doesn't have it, as even the most degenerate Republicans couldn't care less about any of them.  Vance is a RINO to them, as are most of the actual politicians left in the party, and quite frankly he doesn't have the charisma or gravitas, even amoungst the pathetic trash that are the remnants of the Republican Party now that everyone with any sense, dignity or honour has been ejected from the party.

[Tonitrus]

Oh, I agree that DJr and Eric couldn't carry the same bottled lightning as DT...but might be able to carry enough of the momentum through at least one election cycle.

Assuming, of course, that the Democrats cannot muster at least one charismatic/energetic candidate...

[Bauer]

Kamala looked very frustrated on the Colbert interview.  Seems like she probably doesn't want back into politics anytime soon.

[Tonitrus]

Yeah...to be fair, the answer to whether or not run for governor could just be "don't want to".