Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

[Admiral Yi]

In places still, think SW lad joining the Marines, Inner city Scots entering the now amalgamated Scottish regiments, and I think Northern city youths are still much more likely to join up than their southern counterparts* .

*Please note I pulled all of these quaint cameos off the top of my head / out of my arse.

I wasn't thinking of UK and France.  I was thinking of Belgium, Germany, Spain, Italy, etc., etc.

[Admiral Yi]

Similarly from that, I think for the enlisted the US military is less white than the civilian workforce - so it may not be red state farm boys signing up in South Carolina.

Your link says in every branch whites are over represented except the navy (!).

[Sheilbh]

Your link says in every branch whites are over represented except the navy (!).

I said enlisted - look at the race and ethnicity by rank compared with civilian population. Also I don't think it is just the navy, though I think that's the only one across male and female personnel.

[Admiral Yi]

You're right.  White *men* are over represented in every branch except the navy.

[Zanza]

I wasn't thinking of UK and France.  I was thinking of Belgium, Germany, Spain, Italy, etc., etc.

There is a debate in Germany about conscription. Considering the demographics, volunteers are unlikely to be enough.
Another option would be a kind of foreign legion.

[HVC]

I wasn't thinking of UK and France.  I was thinking of Belgium, Germany, Spain, Italy, etc., etc.

There is a debate in Germany about conscription. Considering the demographics, volunteers are unlikely to be enough.
Another option would be a kind of foreign legion.

Get some Italians. 2000 year old role reversal

[Threviel]

With more money comes higher wages for soldiers supplanted by conscription. Demographic collapse is a problem, but a larger problem for Russia and China than for the west. If push comes to shove we could start up foreign legions. Service guarantees citizenship.

What's needed is will. We need to get our propaganda machines up and running, get our populations back into a Cold War mindset.

[Tamas]

If push comes to shove we could start up foreign legions. Service guarantees citizenship.

This would be one more juicy comparison with the decline and fall of Rome.

[Duque de Bragança]

If push comes to shove we could start up foreign legions. Service guarantees citizenship.

This would be one more juicy comparison with the decline and fall of Rome.

Only when a new Edict of Caracalla comes into play.   

[grumbler]

If push comes to shove we could start up foreign legions. Service guarantees citizenship.

This would be one more juicy comparison with the decline and fall of Rome.

But also to the rise of the Roman Republic.

[grumbler]

Another option would be a kind of foreign legion.

The Swiss.  But remember that "no money, no Swiss."