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Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-25

Started by mongers, August 06, 2014, 03:12:53 PM

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Barrister

And when a name just changes on it's own that fine.

What I hate is the hectoring of "you MUST use this awkward, foreign sounding name".

Prime targets: Cote d'Ivoire, Timor-Leste, and Turkiye.

And no I can't be bothered to do the accents.  Because its a small step from that to trying to insist on Україна for Ukraine.
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Quote from: Barrister on Today at 05:46:36 PM
Quote from: Neil on Today at 05:40:29 PMI want to be able to retain 'Kiev' in the English language.  I'm tired of being hectored by random people whenever I use the same spelling that we've been using for two hundred years. 

So I'm as pro-Ukrainian as you get, and I tend to support this.  When speaking in English we use English names.  It's Germany not Deuthschland, Rome not Roma, Moscow not Moskva - and yes Kiev is fine (although I have kind of switched to Kiyev for virtue-signalling, but won't hector you for Kiev).

The one thing I will gently reprimand for is "The" Ukraine though - as no other country has a definite article like that.

But even here - Ukraine is fine, not Ukraina.

I still slip up and the once in a while. Just feels more natural to me. Might just be what I'm used to. Netherlands is another one. I'm going to Netherlands is probably more correct, but the "the" just feels more natural in both cases.

*edit* or I guess The UK, but UK isn't really a country so the rules are different, I guess.
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Valmy

The United States of America?

But saying "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"

Is sort of like "The Republic of France"

You can just say Great Britain or France.
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