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Its curious we always just use the US terms verbatim.
Japan is of course very different indeed. But even with the UK vs. US I expect there are differences.

Thanks, a very interesting chart.

I guess we just use the US 'system' because of the shared language and posters here, so maybe Josq. you could have a go at graphicing up one for us Brits?

For myself, it doesn't make any sense to use the US boomer generation term, because instead I'm part of a very specific UK population boom, one of those large number of children born 9 months after the bad winter of 62-63.

[Syt]

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook/2024/12/13/security-worries-00194193

Security worries
By NICK REISMAN, JEFF COLTIN and EMILY NGO  12/13/2024 07:00 AM EST

State officials want to calm the nerves of New York City's business elite after the assassination of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson sent shockwaves through the corporate world.

Gov. Kathy Hochul will broker a virtual meeting Tuesday with state law enforcement officials and about 175 corporate representatives to discuss sharing security resources.

State Director of Operations Kathryn Garcia is managing the effort, and Kathy Wylde — the CEO and president of the Partnership for New York City — has been the business world's point person.

In an interview Thursday with MSNBC's "Morning Joe," Hochul said the meeting will be "proactive." State officials plan to show how they can provide law enforcement intelligence in case a specific sector is being targeted.

"We protect everybody on the streets of New York, not just CEOs," Hochul said. "Everybody deserves the protection of our law enforcement."

Wylde told Playbook that the discussion will include the State Police as well as state Homeland Security and counterterrorism officials to show how intelligence can be shared with corporate security.

"It's a demonstration that New York really has the most prepared and informed counterterrorism capacity in the country," Wylde said. "There's nowhere safer to be."

Hochul has already spoken to Wylde, a key business ally, about the worries coursing through the corporate community after Thompson, 50, was shot dead earlier this month before he was due to appear at an investor meeting.

"She understood how serious the impact of both the killing and the hateful reaction to it is, and she wants to make sure that the state resources, specifically the domestic counterterrorism resources, are focused on being supportive, sharing information," Wylde said of her initial conversation with Hochul.

Police have arrested Luigi Mangione, 26, who was reportedly found with a notebook that described targeting a "parasitic bean-counter convention."

The executive's shooting has unleashed social media catharsis over the killing and rage over the health insurance industry — alarming corporate leaders who have beefed up private security efforts as a result.

"Demonization of corporate executives is not new," Wylde said. "It was part of the rhetoric in the financial crisis of 2008-09. The real estate industry has obviously been subject to it. It's not new. Translating peoples' anger from rhetoric into shooting someone is new."

It's not clear which firms will send representatives and a spokesperson for the governor declined to comment.

But the meeting is being held as state officials remain fearful private sector leaders will have more impetus to leave New York — with tax revenue suffering as a result.

Business leaders have long complained the state's tax climate has made New York a difficult environment.

The effects of Covid and the spiraling concerns over crime in the city have stoked memories of post-Sept. 11 New York — a time when corporate leaders questioned their presence in the city. Thompson's shooting has only heightened those anxieties.

"We live in a country where you have many ways to exercise your right to protest and be heard both legally and peacefully," said Heather Mulligan, the president and CEO of the private-sector boosting Business Council. "I would encourage any person or group who feels the need to be heard to choose a more sensible approach than violence to make their lives and this world a better place."

[HisMajestyBOB]

I think the people have spoken through both the election results and the reaction to the shooting:
We want to be ruled by the wealthy elite, as long as we can occasionally murder one from time to time.

[Razgovory]

I think that's fair.

[HVC]

I think the people have spoken through both the election results and the reaction to the shooting:
We want to be ruled by the wealthy elite, as long as we can occasionally murder one from time to time.

I smell a new purge film with that plot. would sell well

[Josquius]

One day a year it's open season on anyone with over 500 million.

I suspect that film would revolve around people upset they aren't seen any charity donations and instead some sort of legal /accountancy drama tracking offshore accounts and other tricks.

[Valmy]

Business leaders have long complained the state's tax climate has made New York a difficult environment.

WTF? 

"We live in a country where you have many ways to exercise your right to protest and be heard both legally and peacefully," said Heather Mulligan, the president and CEO of the private-sector boosting Business Council. "I would encourage any person or group who feels the need to be heard to choose a more sensible approach than violence to make their lives and this world a better place."

I don't know man. Protesting is becoming more and more dangerous these days.

[Syt]

Business leaders have long complained the state's tax climate has made New York a difficult environment.

WTF? 

I think it's because the state has taxes.

[Norgy]

Taxes pollute the air now? 

[Valmy]

Business leaders have long complained the state's tax climate has made New York a difficult environment.

WTF? 

I think it's because the state has taxes.

Sure but that was a weird thing to say in the context of security worries. Like they would be fine being gunned down in the street if the taxes were lower.

[Josquius]

I've been seeing a lot of NYC city government articles lately for some reason.
Was reading the other day an opinion bit on how NYCs congestion pricing is doomed to failure because it's police are so corrupt and plentiful, and will just ignore that law.

[Josquius]

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Its curious we always just use the US terms verbatim.
Japan is of course very different indeed. But even with the UK vs. US I expect there are differences.

Thanks, a very interesting chart.

I guess we just use the US 'system' because of the shared language and posters here, so maybe Josq. you could have a go at graphicing up one for us Brits?

For myself, it doesn't make any sense to use the US boomer generation term, because instead I'm part of a very specific UK population boom, one of those large number of children born 9 months after the bad winter of 62-63.

I'm sure others are better versed in social history than I.

I would imagine many of our periods line up with the US, we got the baby boom too for instance, but it's quite different.
The US had the 50s as this boom time of optimism and wonder whilst in the UK it was quite the horrid time of rationing and decline.
The 80s too seem to have been quite positive in the US.

[Sheilbh]

Isn't part of it just that America invents talking about generations in that way? I could be wrong but I think for purposes of marketing and it's linked to the post-war rise of young consumers (very much also observable in the UK and the rest of Europe)/"teenagers" and distinctive cultural expressions - jazz, beat, skiffle. If you want to market to people it's helpful to explain to them who they are and why they're different.

I think there's a lot of overlap between UK and US - not sure there's much point in meaningfully distinguishing between the two (or much of Western Europe). Not least because the cultural influence of the US is so high.

[Norgy]

I think my generation is the "STFU I AM LISTENING TO PEARL JAM" generation.

But isn't this the whole job of capitalism, to break us up into different segments, so they can sell, sell, sell and keep us disunited to the largest extent possible, so we for heaven's sake do not unionise or vote for someone remotely normal, living or somewhat sane?

[DGuller]

It's true that New York taxes, in various forms, are rather high, but you do get a lot of corruption and rent seeking in return.