[Canada] Canadian Politics Redux

[Grey Fox]

I think it might be the simplest answer. The Quebec government is lead by anti-clerical people and prayers in the at large public space is something they despise.

[Barrister]

I think it might be the simplest answer. The Quebec government is lead by anti-clerical people and prayers in the at large public space is something they despise.

Or, and hear me out...

The Quebec government is led by anti-Islamic people, and Islamic prayers in public is something they despise.

Islamic prayer after all can be very specific - and very obvious.  It should be done 5 times per day, on a prayer mat, pointing towards Mecca.  And while Christian prayer can sometimes be obvious, it really doesn't have to be - just a bowed head and a moment of silence.

[Grey Fox]

It's a possibility, I just don't think that CAQ politicians are that worldly.

[viper37]

I think it might be the simplest answer. The Quebec government is lead by anti-clerical people and prayers in the at large public space is something they despise.

Or, and hear me out...

The Quebec government is led by anti-Islamic people, and Islamic prayers in public is something they despise.

Islamic prayer after all can be very specific - and very obvious.  It should be done 5 times per day, on a prayer mat, pointing towards Mecca.  And while Christian prayer can sometimes be obvious, it really doesn't have to be - just a bowed head and a moment of silence.

It does not have to be dones in public, on the streets.

[Oexmelin]

Islamic prayer after all can be very specific - and very obvious.  It should be done 5 times per day, on a prayer mat, pointing towards Mecca.  And while Christian prayer can sometimes be obvious, it really doesn't have to be - just a bowed head and a moment of silence.

I think GF is closer to the truth. I know it's hard to convey how much the Quiet Revolution left a deep sense of ordinary, reflexive anti-clericalism within Quebec's francophone population. Even my students, who have never known the era of triumphant Catholic Church (and whose parents have never known it either) can have pretty strong views about "Churches" in general, without knowing much about any sort of religion, or religious views. Thus, religions which tend to have pretty strong elements of public demonstration are viewed with some measure of distrust, or outright hostility.

[Sheilbh]

Sure it doesn't need to be public, if there's enough space for communal worship in mosques etc. Very often there isn't which is why there's spillover.

Also my experience is the only time you really see prayer on the streets is during the busier times so mainly festivals or, if it's a popular mosque, jummah prayers.

[Oexmelin]

Yes, that's why I think this recent stunt is a combination of a quick reaction to a recent newsstory, a somewhat desperate attempt by government losing momentum to retain some of its voters (this is a party that doesn't have a strong tradition of militancy), and the sort of provincial outlook that GF alluded to. 

[Grey Fox]

Personally, whatever slippery slopes  BB finds in our MAID systems, I find 10 fold in any and all expression of religiousness. Give them an inch and they will take miles to enslave our daughters and mothers.

[Josephus]

Not long ago Quebec also banned the wearing of religious clothing in public office. this included kippahs and hijabs and crosses.IIRC they had to use the nothwistanding clause in order to avoid constituional scrutiny.

[Barrister]

Personally, whatever slippery slopes  BB finds in our MAID systems, I find 10 fold in any and all expression of religiousness. Give them an inch and they will take miles to enslave our daughters and mothers.

Fuck you you fucking fuckhead.

[Grey Fox]

No.

 

[HVC]

Now now, gentleman. Let's do like the Quebec politicians and pick a third group to ostracize and persecute to draw us all together in our anger.  Uhm... how does everyone feel about the North Koreans?

[Oexmelin]

While there is undoubtedly an undercurrent of islamophobia informing that latest stunt, let's just remind ourselves that the event that prompted it was a primary school were a clique of eleven teachers more or less remade the program, deciding that some subjects - such as ethics, sexuality and adjudicated access to resources according to matters like whether a woman speech therapist, was allowed to intervene in the classroom of a male teacher. 

[viper37]

I think it might be the simplest answer. The Quebec government is lead by anti-clerical people and prayers in the at large public space is something they despise.

Or, and hear me out...

The Quebec government is led by anti-Islamic people, and Islamic prayers in public is something they despise.

Islamic prayer after all can be very specific - and very obvious.  It should be done 5 times per day, on a prayer mat, pointing towards Mecca.  And while Christian prayer can sometimes be obvious, it really doesn't have to be - just a bowed head and a moment of silence.

The Islamic prayers in public are a test by Islamic radicals to push further and further than radical agendas.

They reject our society and they want to make it clear to everyone that their vision of Islam will be the new way of life.

There was the Bedford school case where a small group impose terror on other teachers, many of their own Faith, to establish their own radical agenda:  no sexual education, no sports for girls, prayers in schools, etc and there's another similar case developing where kids are telling their teachers they won't accept to be taught that homosexuality is normal.

That's the kind of radical they are pushing with the public prayers and the religious symbols, and it's only the tip of the iceberg.  We must act against all the indoctrination.  Clearly, we weren't going far enough.

[Zoupa]

What's the reason behind muslim immigrants being more religious once they're in the West compared to at home? Genuine question.

I've been to many muslim countries. People drink and screw and no one gives a fuck when the muezzin calls for prayer.