Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Jacob]

If he really were on that plane, then I'm just even more dumfounded as to why he felt safe being in Russia.  I know Russia can get you anywhere, but surely it's a whole lot easier and foolproof to get you in Russia.  If he weren't on the plane, though, then it has to be an all out war between him and Putin now.

Yeah pretty much. It's a bit of a headscratcher.

[Caliga]

Plane depressurized after he tripped out of the cockpit window

Everyone and everything in Russia so clumsy.  What a country!

[PDH]

Really, Russia should not have prioritized shooting down passenger aircraft and instead made systems capable of hitting a cobbled together drone flying at 62 kph with an old lawn mower engine.

[grumbler]

I'm somewhat dubious about this picture.  For the plane to be flaming like that, it would have had to be fueled, which it normally wouldn't be if it was just sitting in its revetment. The Ukrainians could just have gotten lucky and hit a plane being prepped for a mission, though.

Apparently 'British Military Intelligence' have confirmed it as a real.

Later reports that it was a short-range drone make it more credible that the Ukrainians had eyeballs on target and just waited until the jet was gassed up before attacking.

[Josquius]

What is interesting about the assassination is that they didn't even try the "woops fell out of a window" bit. It was full on, there's his plane, shoot it with our military. No pretending even in the lazy Russian manner.

[Josquius]

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[Jacob]

This video supposedly shows Prigozhin's plane as it plummets: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/15zaa3p/breaking_a_private_jet_owned_by_prigozhin_was/

[Sheilbh]

What is interesting about the assassination is that they didn't even try the "woops fell out of a window" bit. It was full on, there's his plane, shoot it with our military. No pretending even in the lazy Russian manner.

This is when we discover it's the French taking revenge for his nonsense in the Sahel.

[Jacob]

This is when we discover it's the French taking revenge for his nonsense in the Sahel.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with Wagner operations in Africa and elsewhere. Is there an obvious heir inside Wagner? Will a competing courtier take it all over? Will the pieces be split up between several actors? Will Wagner lose some focus and skill or will operations continue uninterrupted?

[DGuller]

There was one obvious heir, but he was on the same plane. 

[Jacob]

What's that Chechen guy and his tik-tok warriors up to these days?

Not that I'm suggesing he's the heir, this just reminded me.

[mongers]

My guess would be a helicopter crash in Africa, on my way out I'd just seen a news strapline saying Prizgoshin was dead and I've not read this thread either.

edit:
OK it wasn't, but he was flying in broad daylight across Western Russia.

I wonder if they'll bother to make a fake enquiry that concludes it was a mechanical accident?

[Jacob]

There was one obvious heir, but he was on the same plane. 

I don't know who you're talking about, but maybe there's no point learning about the guy now he's dead.

[Jacob]

My guess would be a helicopter crash in Africa, on my way out I'd just seen a news strapline saying Prizgoshin was dead and I've not read this thread either.

Alright, let us know when you've read the thread

[Crazy_Ivan80]

There was one obvious heir, but he was on the same plane. 

I don't know who you're talking about, but maybe there's no point learning about the guy now he's dead.

I think he's talking about the Nazi guy? The one with all the swastikas and ss-runes tattooed on him?
It's the first actualy denazification the Russians have done in this war.