Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-23 and Invasion

[Jacob]

Denmark to donate 19 F16 to Ukraine. Not sure how many Holland is providing.

Hopefully they'll be active soon.

[The Brain]

Putin's moon missile hit its target I hear.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Denmark to donate 19 F16 to Ukraine. Not sure how many Holland is providing.

Hopefully they'll be active soon.

the total is 42 F16s

[Josquius]

Good to see the fighter donations.

Though I cant help but find it telling and amusing that the Netherlands and Denmark donating their old aircraft that they won't be needing at all in a few years is such a threat to Russia.

[PDH]

Good to see the fighter donations.

Though I cant help but find it telling and amusing that the Netherlands and Denmark donating their old aircraft that they won't be needing at all in a few years is such a threat to Russia., as you imply.

Russian aviation has not shown an ability to control the airspace over the warzone, I would think this implies less capabilities and less overall ability in this regard.  F-16s might be more capable, if well flown, than Russian air, as you imply.

[Tonitrus]

Russian aviation isn't really the concern...Russian long-range SAMs are.

[HVC]

Putin's moon missile hit its target I hear.

A lead consultant fell ill during the investigation into the crash. At least he hasn't fallen out a window yet.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Putin's moon missile hit its target I hear.

A Ukrainian drone shot it down on descent

[Maladict]

Denmark to donate 19 F16 to Ukraine. Not sure how many Holland is providing.

Hopefully they'll be active soon.

the total is 42 F16s

 The Dutch have 42, but no number was given. So the total number could be up to 61.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Denmark to donate 19 F16 to Ukraine. Not sure how many Holland is providing.

Hopefully they'll be active soon.

the total is 42 F16s

 The Dutch have 42, but no number was given. So the total number could be up to 61.

Indeed. Today's newspaper mentions 62 as the amount. Even better.

[mongers]

Deep inside Russia:



Details here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66573842

[grumbler]

I'm somewhat dubious about this picture.  For the plane to be flaming like that, it would have had to be fueled, which it normally wouldn't be if it was just sitting in its revetment. The Ukrainians could just have gotten lucky and hit a plane being prepped for a mission, though.

[Barrister]

I'm somewhat dubious about this picture.  For the plane to be flaming like that, it would have had to be fueled, which it normally wouldn't be if it was just sitting in its revetment. The Ukrainians could just have gotten lucky and hit a plane being prepped for a mission, though.

Good point.  But I also certainly wouldn't be shocked if Ukrainians got intelligence precisely about when it was being prepped for a mission (either from their own sources, or from the US).

Between anti-Putin Russians, and ethnic Ukrainians living in Russia, there are a lot of potential intelligence sources inside of Russia...

[Sheilbh]

Between anti-Putin Russians, and ethnic Ukrainians living in Russia, there are a lot of potential intelligence sources inside of Russia...

And perhaps not just sources. Haven't posted one of these in a while but that second bullet is very striking:

[Duque de Bragança]

'70s, really? More like 1962. Retroactive effect to 1957? Perhaps.

For NATO purposes, ditto.

After 1962 Algeria was immediately treated as a third country in relation to customs and their citizens, but it was legally unclear what the basis for that was.

It's not until the mid-70s that there's a treaty that formally excludes Algeria from the EEC - again it feels like you wouldn't have that if it wasn't at least arguable that purely legally they should have remained a member after 62.

The provisions on parts of a member state leaving (eg Scotland) are relatively new. Most European colonies weren't impacted because they were dealt with in Annexes to the Treaty of Rome so only bits of the EEC framework applied to them. Algeria is the exception as it was fully part of the EEC because it was France - and, as Monnet put it, with Algeria the centre of Europe is the Med, without it's the Rhine.

Algeria was not a colony, remember? Unlike the rest of French Africa.
Hence, most if not all the problems. Départements d'Oran, Alger et Constantine, subdivided later.

First time I see references to that legally unclear status, I recall reading documents about this issue being cleared quickly from the very beginning. Need to check the Accords d'Évian, very partially enforced, if at all, for a limited time at best, anyways.
 
It's not like in 1957, other European countries were too happy about the "European" status of Algerian départements, so I doubt that theoretical loophole, for which I am willing to believe you for now, really amounted to something.

As to Monnet's quote, when was it? In 1954, even the French Communists were against Algerian independence.

PS: check the Évian agreements nothing explicit about it, but independence is clearly stated, obviously.